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It's this simple. If you think Pete Hegseth is qualified to be the Secretary of Defense, you're willing to put the 2.86 million American military personnel at extreme risk. It will be the most reckless decision made by either party in decades, and Republicans will own any little thing that goes wrong from here on. It's no different than making Rudy Giuliani our secretary of state.
 
lawtig02 said:
It's this simple. If you think Pete Hegseth is qualified to be the Secretary of Defense, you're willing to put the 2.86 million American military personnel at extreme risk. It will be the most reckless decision made by either party in decades, and Republicans will own any little thing that goes wrong from here on. It's no different than making Rudy Giuliani our secretary of state.
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The hypocrisy of constantly squealing about how the most qualified person must be the one who gets every job followed by nominating the most objectively unqualified person to ever be put forward to run the military of all things is just stunning. They squeal about how the mere appearance of not having the best person possible when nominating KBJ for the Supreme Court is disqualifying regardless of her credentials, then set about making excuses for why Hegseth is ok despite having almost none.
 
lawtig02 said:
It's this simple. If you think Pete Hegseth is qualified to be the Secretary of Defense, you're willing to put the 2.86 million American military personnel at extreme risk. It will be the most reckless decision made by either party in decades, and Republicans will own any little thing that goes wrong from here on. It's no different than making Rudy Giuliani our secretary of state.
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If you take away his alleged baggage related to drinking, women and religion, he's still not qualified. I don't think he's nearly as bad as he's portrayed by Democrats, but he's just not qualified to run a department of that size
 
lawtig02 said:
It's this simple. If you think Pete Hegseth is qualified to be the Secretary of Defense, you're willing to put the 2.86 million American military personnel at extreme risk. It will be the most reckless decision made by either party in decades, and Republicans will own any little thing that goes wrong from here on. It's no different than making Rudy Giuliani our secretary of state.
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hell, at least Rudy had some relatively high level experience.

it's like they picked hegseth specifically because he is a wholly unqualified disaster. he checks every box - sex/marital scandals, abuse allegations, financial impropriety, discrimination, extremism, substance abuse issues, etc. etc. etc.
 
ZenMode said:
If you take away his alleged baggage related to drinking, women and religion, he's still not qualified. I don't think he's nearly as bad as he's portrayed by Democrats, but he's just not qualified to run a department of that size
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To be fair, he's only not as bad as he's been portrayed by Democrats if you ignore his drinking problems, sexual abuse, and Christo-nationalism.
 
dukeman92 said:
No. There are no two ways to see any of it.

- Documented Alcoholism refers to him admitting that he's had problems with alcohol abuse.
In August 2021, Pete Hegseth said on Will Cain’s podcast that slowly, surely, “by the grace of God,” he had been able to undo a pattern of alcohol abuse that had dogged him since he returned from military combat in Iraq in 2006
I'm not going to list all the examples. There are many. And you know full well that he has an admitted documented history of it.

- Sexual Assault refers to the incident in which he restrained a woman from leaving a motel room and them sexually assaulted her. There were no formal charges because he entered into a settlement agreement with his accuser.

- Misogyny refers to the numerous statements made throughout the years about women serving in combat roles. It has nothing to do with lowering standards for them. He specifically stated that women should NOT serve in combat roles.

- Christian Nationalism refers to the Christian battle cry he has on his arm. A phrase championed by the proud boys and extremists who participated in J6.

So we can continue to engage in this inane bullshittery or you can answer my question. Would you consider someone with a documented history of alcohol abuse, sexual assault, misogyny, and Christian Nationalism mentally stable?
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I'm not going to split hairs about alcohol abuse vs alcohol addiction and I don't know the context behind his women in battle view, but I don't see it as automatic misogyny. If he raped that woman, that would clearly disqualify him though, as I said above, he's unqualified if none of the allegations are true.
 
lawtig02 said:
To be fair, he's only not as bad as he's been portrayed by Democrats if you ignore his drinking problems, sexual abuse, and Christo-nationalism.
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Let’s not forget his rank inexperience at leading large organization, nor his documented financial mismanagement of those small to mid sized organizations.
 
ZenMode said:
I'm not going to split hairs about alcohol abuse vs alcohol addiction and I don't know the context behind his women in battle view, but I don't see it as automatic misogyny. If he raped that woman, that would clearly disqualify him though, as I said above, he's unqualified if none of the allegations are true.
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i mean, ffs dude. have you read ANYTHING about the guy?

www.newyorker.com

Pete Hegseth’s Secret History

A whistle-blower report and other documents suggest that Trump’s nominee to run the Pentagon was forced out of previous leadership positions for financial mismanagement, sexist behavior, and being repeatedly intoxicated on the job.
www.newyorker.com www.newyorker.com
 
4thgenheel said:
i mean, ffs dude. have you read ANYTHING about the guy?

www.newyorker.com

Pete Hegseth’s Secret History

A whistle-blower report and other documents suggest that Trump’s nominee to run the Pentagon was forced out of previous leadership positions for financial mismanagement, sexist behavior, and being repeatedly intoxicated on the job.
www.newyorker.com www.newyorker.com
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Clearly not. His sole purpose here is to take a contrarian view on everything. Facts be damned.
 

US designates extreme right-wing 'Terrorgram' network as terrorist group​


“WASHINGTON, Jan 13 (Reuters) - The U.S. on Monday imposed sanctions on an extreme right-wing online network, designating the "Terrorgram" collective a terrorist group and accusing it of promoting violent white supremacy.

The U.S. State Department said in a statement that it had designated the group, which primarily operates on the Telegram social media site, and three of its leaders as Specially Designated Global Terrorists.

The State Department said the group has motivated and facilitated attacks and attempted attacks by users, including a 2022 shooting outside an LGBTQ bar in Slovakia, a planned attack in 2024 on energy facilities in New Jersey and an August knife attack at a mosque in Turkey.

… The action freezes any of the group's U.S. assets and bars Americans from dealing with it.
The leaders targeted on Monday with sanctions were based in Brazil, Croatia and South Africa, according to the statement. …”

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I put this here because I will be interested to see if the Trump Administration rescinds it (due to potential impact on white supremacist groups in the United States).
 
superrific said:
4. We already know what Trump did on immigration. Jack shit until the pandemic. Most of the shit he talks about has already been found to be illegal by federal courts, including the Supreme Court on occasion (though pre-ACB).
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That's not true.

He did promulgate a pattern of forcibly separating children from their families, absent due process considerations and with virtually no thought given to the potential for reuniting those so separated, with the intent of having them relinquish certain rights, such that it was found to shock the conscience of the court.

So I mean, he has that going for him.
 
StrangePackage said:
That's not true.

He did promulgate a pattern of forcibly separating children from their families, absent due process considerations and with virtually no thought given to the potential for reuniting those so separated, with the intent of having them relinquish certain rights, such that it was found to shock the conscience of the court.

So I mean, he has that going for him.
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You are correct. Thanks for the amendment.
 
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