Trump / Musk (other than DOGE) Omnibus Thread

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Callatoroy said:
Just going to try to save you from wasting any more of your time.

1. They have zero interest in discussing anything in good faith. They clearly know what you mean, but try to find some minute detail to refute your point and then say you are dumb, yada, yada, yada. Any reasonable person knows that the dims royally fucked up the border with joe's policies and rhetoric, and kamala's incompetence. That is a fact as supported by the overwhelming negative polling on border security and election results. So, Ford saying no and super trying to employ some technicality is just them acting in bad faith. At that point, all further attempts are wasted time because they can't defend the border and they can't objectively own any team responsibility. Not rational to think they could on any other topic either. Cut and do something more useful like paint something and then watch the paint dry. You will get about as much meaningful insight.

2. There is zero desire to engage in objective political discussion. Not only is it in bad faith, but arrogance, wokeness, limited intellectual curiosity, and TDS precludes any possible worthwhile discussion. You are on a political board dominated by, not just dims, but waaaaay out there dims. How many of these critical thinkers do you think participate in boards where they are in the minority? They don't have any intellectual curiosity and would rather spend all their time in a safe space where their views are echoed back and forth. There is a severe lack of seriousness in what is actually being discussed. You can't actively and intelligently engage with people who are woke. Liberals yes, there is something to be gained and learned. But woke liberals, lol might as well be talking to radicalized jihadists. Not much different in their ability to think objectively. Brainwashed is brainwashed.

But, if you disagree, keep chopping wood.
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The very kind people (not me) on this board and IC have spent 15+ years trying to have good faith discussions with you. They have shared 10's of thousands of reliable sources of information, yet here you are, dumb as ever. Trying to defend the indefensible.

I wouldn't describe myself as woke (calling people woke is like porn to you fake Christians). I would describe myself as hating you. Everything about you is repulsive.

I'm simply here to make fun of you, and god-willing, hopefully take a massive dump on your face while holding one of your guns. 🤞

And now you want to have a civil discussion, while Trump is destroying most decent things in this country.

In case I haven't said it before, fuck you, you stupid rube.
 
UNCatTech said:
Yea, you know we have post where your alter ego comes out and admits you don't like things he's doing and how he only has one approach to everything.
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I have identified the things he is doing that I don't like. Those haven't changed. That's not the same as "I don't like the things he is doing"
 
superrific said:
1. They aren't putting them up in expensive hotels. What part of that do you not understand.
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The part where NYC has the third highest average hotel cost in the country. Surely you've been to NYC. There are no cheap hotels, restaurants, etc.
2. NY doesn't have the power to bus the migrants around. That Desantis and Abbott did so by having them sign phony waivers is not a model that should be emulated.
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Ok. Get them to agree to go somewhere else OR find another way to house them.
3. Why didn't the Pubs just pass the bipartisan immigration bill? That's so much easier than all this convoluted nonsense.
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Because it was politically beneficial to have an open issue. The same reason, for example, legislation is sometimes held up in Congress by one party or the other.
 
ZenMode said:
The part where NYC has the third highest average hotel cost in the country. Surely you've been to NYC. There are no cheap hotels, restaurants, etc.Ok. Get them to agree to go somewhere else OR find another way to house them. Because it was politically beneficial to have an open issue. The same reason, for example, bills are held up in Congress by one party or the other.
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I lived in NYC for years. You're right -- the cost of living is high. Again, what are you complaining about? They maxed out all the other options. You know what NYC doesn't have a lot of? Empty buildings.
 
Callatoroy said:
I have identified the things he is doing that I don't like. Those haven't changed. That's not the same as "I don't like the things he is doing"
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As someone that appears to understand the need for checks and balances, and accountability, you cant really be ok with him completely ignoring the guard rails in place to keep the US from becoming a dictatorship, correct?

Or are you ok with a dictatorship, as long as it's your dictator.

All his moves are that of a dictator, unless the legal system works and limits his power.

It would allowing me nice if Congress performed a they should, but we know they are scared of him.
 
Shenanigans said:
The very kind people (not me) on this board and IC have spent 15+ years trying to have good faith discussions with you. They have shared 10's of thousands of reliable sources of information, yet here you are, dumb as ever. Trying to defend the indefensible.

I wouldn't describe myself as woke (calling people woke is like porn to you fake Christians). I would describe myself as hating you. Everything about you is repulsive.

I'm simply here to make fun of you, and god-willing, hopefully take a massive dump on your face while holding one of your guns. 🤞

And now you want to have a civil discussion, while Trump is destroying most decent things in this country.

In case I haven't said it before, fuck you, you stupid rube.
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You are the very definition of woke. You are also the definition of people who were repudiated in the election. So hate away. You are now an afterthought and hopefully will be further neutered over the next 4 years. If I had just been relegated to the trash heap and deemed useless by a majority of voters I'd be angry too. You would be lucky not to shit your pants while holding a gun barney
devil in the white city classics GIF
 
breepf said:
I know very little about the law, but is it the assumption moving forward that the Trump administration will appeal these rulings to SCOTUS, where we then face the following possibilities?

1) SCOTUS kneecaps the judiciary and Trump wins;

2) SCOTUS retains a shred of legitimacy; Trump backs down;

3) SCOTUS retains a shred of legitimacy; Trump still doesn't back down
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I predict that SCOTUS will roll over to preserve the appearance that they still have some legitimacy. Trump and Musk can’t defy SCOTUS if SCOTUS just agrees to everything they want.
 
UNCatTech said:
As someone that appears to understand the need for checks and balances, and accountability, you cant really be ok with him completely ignoring the guard rails in place to keep the US from becoming a dictatorship, correct?

Or are you ok with a dictatorship, as long as it's your dictator.

All his moves are that of a dictator, unless the legal system works and limits his power.

It would allowing me nice if Congress performed a they should, but we know they are scared of him.
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"As someone that appears to understand the need for checks and balances, and accountability, you cant really be ok with him completely ignoring the guard rails in place to keep the US from becoming a dictatorship, correct?"

Correct that I'm not in favor of a dictator regardless on any party affiliation (fully support 2 term limit for potus) and believe very strongly in checks and balances including not eliminating the filibuster.
 
Callatoroy said:
You are the very definition of woke. You are also the definition of people who were repudiated in the election. So hate away. You are now an afterthought and hopefully will be further neutered over the next 4 years. If I had just been relegated to the trash heap and deemed useless by a majority of voters I'd be angry too. You would be lucky not to shit your pants while holding a gun barney
devil in the white city classics GIF
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Trump policies affect me none at all. A majority of voters are quite stupid like you, I'm shocked.

I'll be here for the foreseeable future (nyc-willing) explaining to you in great detail why you are trash.

Shut the fuck up or take your tired shtick to truth social. No one here, especially Carolina grads, gives a fuck about why you are stupid rube.
 
Callatoroy said:
"As someone that appears to understand the need for checks and balances, and accountability, you cant really be ok with him completely ignoring the guard rails in place to keep the US from becoming a dictatorship, correct?"

Correct that I'm not in favor of a dictator regardless on any party affiliation (fully support 2 term limit for potus) and believe very strongly in checks and balances including not eliminating the filibuster.
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You are 100% in favor of a dictator, LIAR!!!!!!!!
 
superrific said:
I lived in NYC for years. You're right -- the cost of living is high. Again, what are you complaining about? They maxed out all the other options. You know what NYC doesn't have a lot of? Empty buildings.
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I don't know.....the border towns, that are actually flooded by migrants and have been for decades, figure it out and I suspect they aren't using a lot hotels because the towns often aren't the type that would have lots of hotels in the first place.
 
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