Trump / Musk (other than DOGE) Omnibus Thread

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ZenMode said:
I don't know.....the border towns, that are actually flooded by migrants and have been for decades, figure it out and I suspect they aren't using a lot hotels because the towns often aren't the type that would have lots of hotels in the first place.
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Hmm. Can you think of a difference between rural Texas and New York City? Anything that might make it harder for one of them to find space than the other?
 
Callatoroy said:
That's not what he said. Context matters. He said "legitimate power"
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Does he have any kind of power other than legitimate power?

Not exactly redundant but with my background it reminds me of 3 equations and 2 unknowns - over determined
 
ZenMode said:
The decision to put them up in expensive hotels in NYC isn't the fault of Desantis or Abbott. I support the decision to bus them because it brought the issue to the forefront.

Plus, Kathy Hochul loves immigrants. Abbott and Desantis were just making her wishes come true.
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Of course you support the decision. At least you’ve dropped the bosider bullshit and come out of the closet as full blown MAGA.

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farce© said:
Of course you support the decision. At least you’ve dropped the bosider bullshit and come out of the closet as full blown MAGA.

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Being able to see both sides on many topics doesn't mean I don't sometimes take a side on specific topics.

For example, I can recognize the need for some number of Mexican immigrants to do to specific jobs, while still recognizing the stupidity of having a largely open border that has allowed millions upon millions of illegals into the country.

Northern Democrats, sitting in their ivory towers, sipping their Malbec and saying how much they loooooove migrants, while conservative southern states bear the brunt of migration, is why I support bussing migrants to NYC and other liberal cities/locations.
 
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ZenMode said:
Being able to see both sides on many topics doesn't mean I don't sometimes take a side on specific topics.

For example, I can recognize the need for some number of Mexican immigrants to do to specific jobs, while still recognizing the stupidity of having a largely open border that has allowed millions upon millions of illegals into the country.

Northern Democrats, sitting in their ivory towers, sipping their Malbec and saying how much they loooooove migrants, while conservative southern states bear the brunt of migration, is why I support bussing migrants to NYC and other liberal cities/locations.
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We’ve always had a “largely open border.” The border is the exact same as it has always been under every single presidential administration. There are patrolled ports of entry and there are thousands upon thousands of miles of unpatrolled land where people who are desperate enough to cross over rivers or other rough terrain often gain illegal entry in the United States. Short of literally building some sort of mythical impenetrable fortress wall along 100% of the border, we’re never going to be able to stop 100% of illegal immigration. What we *can* do, and what I support wholeheartedly, is robust reinforcement of our border security through beefed up border patrol personnel, beefed up technological infrastructure, strict policies on apprehension and expulsion- you know, exactly like the bipartisan border bill created by Republican Senator Jim Lankford. That bill was a fantastic start. I’m more than happy to spend whatever money we need, and allocate whatever resources and personnel we need, to secure the border as best we can. I’m happy to spend whatever money we need and allocate whatever resources and personnel we need, to detain and expel migrants who commit crimes here in the U.S. I think we should allocate whatever money and whatever resources we need to make our system of legal immigration more efficient. But we’ve always had a “largely open border” and we will always have a “largely open border” unless you think that spending tons of taxpayer money and tons of military manpower to literally secure thousands of miles of empty border land is a good use of resources.
 
The number of undocumented immigrants is roughly the same today as it was at the end of George W’s presidency.
 
I might as well ask this for, I don't know, maybe the 20th time. Name the wave of immigration that has ever hurt the US in the long run or even really, short term. For the benefit of us all, try to support your claims with something outside of opinion polls. Zenophobia just doesn't count.
 
Callatoroy said:
That's not what he said. Context matters. He said "legitimate power"
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That context makes the statement worse, not better. It is precisely the role of the courts to determine the legitimate power of both Congress and the Executive. It is the role of the the Executive to appoint candidates for the judiciary. It is the role of Congress to approve of those candidates for the judiciary.
 
wmheel1287 said:
That context makes the statement worse, not better. It is precisely the role of the courts to determine the legitimate power of both Congress and the Executive. It is the role of the the Executive to appoint candidates for the judiciary. It is the role of Congress to approve of those candidates for the judiciary.
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Guess our board Trumpers snoozed through 10th grade Civics.
 
Bobfripp said:
This is you before the election ...
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This is you after the election ...
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Come on dr bob, are you against a little me time? Sorry but just can't get all that excited pontificating all of the left's philosophical questions. I mean you just have to live life and say to yourself, what can be, unburdened by the what has been right?
 
Callatoroy said:
Come on dr bob, are you against a little me time? Sorry but just can't get all that excited pontificating all of the left's philosophical questions. I mean you just have to live life and say to yourself, what can be, unburdened by the what has been right?
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No offense Calla-man. Sometimes, we just need to unburden ourselves. ;)
 
wmheel1287 said:
That context makes the statement worse, not better. It is precisely the role of the courts to determine the legitimate power of both Congress and the Executive. It is the role of the the Executive to appoint candidates for the judiciary. It is the role of Congress to approve of those candidates for the judiciary.
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I know its precisely the role of the courts to determine the legitimate power of the president. A court ruling may or may not do that. He is talking about activist judges ruling just to impede his actions. He isn't talking about SCOTUS issuing a ruling and trump disregarding it. He isn't saying trump is above the law and shouldn't following court decisions.
 
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