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“… when you’re a rich person and you like to take a shower …”
 


Some weirdo recorded himself losing $300k of his grandpa's money (inheritance?) in real time on DJT calls.

America is busting at the seams with easy marks.
 
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Callatoroy said:
I don't think he is intent on destroying the institutions and systems in our g'ment.
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He is literally doing that as we speak. Immigration is unlawfully shut down, apparently. The CDC, NIH can't communicate with the outside world, meaning they can't do their jobs. He is putting the biggest enemy of public health in the history of the Republic in charge of the public health agencies, with intent to destroy. Putting a compromised foreign asset in the position of national intelligence. Firing all the career professionals in the DOJ. Decimating the Foreign Service. The intelligence agencies are about to get completely fucked. The FBI will lose everyone competent.

You are on the threads where this is documented. You know this. Yet you conclude that he's not "intent" on doing the things he's actually doing? And please don't respond with some ludicrous about how he's just "reforming" those agencies. That just uses the word "reform" as a tautology. For the idea of reform to have any merit or substance, there has to be a value judgment as to whether the change is good or bad. And that's a complex question in the abstract, but easy in this situation: of course this change is bad. It's incontestably bad. Government by paranoiacs is extremely dangerous.
 
lawtig02 said:
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Do you mean that SCOTUS won’t assert its power to preserve constitutional, institutional, historical norms?

Doubt they do that.

Do you mean that SCOTUS won’t try a power-grab of its own?

When power is involved, never underestimate people’s willingness to exert it.
 
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Another Bonus Quote of the Day

“Dear President Trump, listen very carefully. Greenland have been part of the Danish kingdom for 800 years. It’s an integrated part of our country. It is not for sale. Let me put it in words
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“Dear President Trump, listen very carefully. Greenland have been part of the Danish kingdom for 800 years. It’s an integrated part of our country. It is not for sale. Let me put it in words you might understand. Mr. Trump, fuck off.”

— Danish MP Anders Vistisen, addressing the European Parliament.
 

Trump pushes Hill GOP on recess appointments, debt limit​

A White House meeting on the president’s first full day back in office emphasized unity.

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President Donald Trump prodded congressional leaders to consider recess appointments for his top nominees and expressed interest in trading California wildfire aid for a debt limit increase in a White House meeting Tuesday — resurfacing two controversial proposals floated during the returning president’s transition.

The discussions, which were described by two people granted anonymity to describe the private talks, also touched on his proposal to exempt at least some tip income from federal taxes and his efforts more generally to extend tax cuts.

… Trump described wanting to use wildfire aid as a bargaining chip in comments to reporters shortly after the meeting: “They’re going to need a lot of money, and generally speaking I think you will find that a lot of Democrats are going to be asking for help. So I think maybe that makes it more one-sided. I think we’re going to do very well.”

Meanwhile, inside the meeting, Trump emphasized the need for Republicans to stick together as a party: “The one thing the Democrats have going for them is they stick together,” one of the people familiar with the meeting said, paraphrasing Trump’s message. “No grandstanding — just stick together and deliver and we will win.” …”
 
sringwal said:
Thank you for this response. I also wrestle with how much character matters, just as much as I wrestle with how much intelligence matters - for people in politics. More than anything, however, empathy matters to me. And that is where I believe that we, as a country, have failed the world in electing Trump.

Although I didn’t vote for either of them (not that I could have voted for Sr., as the 2000 election was the first I could vote in), I found both Bushes to be empathetic men. I felt the same way about Romney and Dole. I don’t see any empathy in Trump. If we are being honest, I think Trump views empathy as a weakness, a flawed character trait.

At my heart, I am very much an “ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country,” man. I believe that that statement should be at the core of who we are as a nation. It is one of four maxims that I hold dear as it relates to my experience as a United States citizen.

The second one is at the base of the Statue of Liberty:
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

The third comes from early in the colonial era, and is a from a sermon by John Winthrop: “For we must consider that we shall be as a city upon a hill. The eyes of all people are upon us. So that if we shall deal falsely with our God in this work we have undertaken, and so cause Him to withdraw His present help from us, we shall be made a story and a by-word through the world.”

Those three statements have defined much of who I am and how I choose to identify myself, as a citizen of this country.

Trump strikes me as a man who will never understand that first statement, scoffs at the second, and only views Winthrop’s City Upon the Hill through the lens of power.

For the first time in the course of my nearly half century on earth, I am no longer certain that any of those three quotes represents where this nation is going. And I don’t know what to do with that, other than assume that the fourth American maxim that I hold dear, “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness,”means something very different to Trump supporters than it does to me.

We can debate policy until the cows come home. But goodness should not be up for debate. Yes. We have had corrupt politicians in the past. Yes, I even voted for some of them. But Trump just hits different.

There is a level of cruelty and vindictiveness to him that is a malignant cancer, and it is spreading across America.

That is where I’m coming from. And I believe that others on here agree with me, particularly those who were once a part of the Republican Party, but left because of a man who views the world through a lens that many of us thought died with WWII, Korea, and Vietnam, at least in this country: one of conquest (personal, political, and global).

Add in Elon Musk, a man who is so wealthy that he will probably die having bought and sold several countries, and I honestly don’t know where we go as a society - not only over the next four years, but for the next 40.

That’s not a perspective that I have ever entertained before, and certainly not to the degree that I do now.

Something wicked this way comes.
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Appreciate your post.

What is your 4th maxim?
 

Trump Says He Intends to Impose 10% Tariffs on Chinese Imports on Feb. 1​

The president said the planned duties were a response to China’s failure to curb fentanyl exports.

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Trump Says He Will Impose 10% Tariffs on Chinese Imports on Feb. 1

The president said the planned duties were a response to China’s failure to curb fentanyl exports.
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“… Speaking at the White House, Mr. Trump said that the tariffs were in response to China’s role in America’s fentanyl crisis. Mr. Trump said that China was sending fentanyl to Canada and Mexico, from where it would be transported into the United States.

The tariff threat comes after Mr. Trump said on Monday that he planned to impose a 25 percent duty on imports from Canada and Mexico as punishment for allowing fentanyl and illegal immigrants to cross into the United States.

“We’re talking about a tariff of 10 percent on China based on the fact that they’re sending fentanyl to Mexico and Canada,” Mr. Trump said. …”
 

Senate Questionnaire Sheds Light on F.B.I. Pick’s Early Years​

In the form, Kash Patel said he had participated in an American Bar Association program that promotes diversity. He also played down his role in the Benghazi investigation.

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Senate Questionnaire Sheds Light on F.B.I. Pick’s Early Years

In the form, Kash Patel said he had participated in an American Bar Association program that promotes diversity. He also played down his role in the Benghazi investigation.
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“… A spokesman for Mr. Patel, one of relatively few people of color to be selected for top administration positions, did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

That he availed himself of such a program as an ethnic minority would be unexceptional had not Mr. Trump made attacking diversity, equity and inclusion programs in academia and government a core element of his pitch to voters.

On Day 1 of his second term, Mr. Trump announced an executive order ending D.E.I. programs in the federal government, which he has denounced as “Marxist” and racist. The F.B.I. has taken pre-emptive action, quietly closing its own D.E.I. office in December. …”
 
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