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Sorry if this is thread derail material NYC. Do with it as you see fit.

I so wanted to add this to the Urban Dictionary (had it all typed up there), but then I remembered how petty Elon is and wouldn't be surprised if he would hunt someone down for some form of retribution and I decided against it. If anyone else wants to do it, feel free to do so and make any changes you want.

DOGE

Definition - An incel that likes to play with feces and always involves attempts to put the feces back into the anus. A group of DOGEs (called a Musk) will often get together and share their feces with each other.

Doodie
Over
Girls
Everyday

Example in a sentence - That DOGE sure made a mess trying to cram all that feces back into his anus.

The Musk got together for their weekly DOGE party and evenly split the collected feces between each other.
 
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Marco Rubio Isn’t Likely to Last Long as Secretary of State​


He’s being undermined by fellow Republicans, and that’s before he shows up to lead a workforce Trump distrusts.

"...Rubio’s committee hearing is set for Wednesday and he’s expected to be one of the first Trump nominees to take up his post.

But he’ll be lucky to last a year at Foggy Bottom. Rubio already is being undermined — through push-back from Trump’s MAGA base, the naming of other Trump appointees with overlapping portfolios as well as the essentially weak nature of the position he’s inheriting. In my conversations with about a dozen current and former U.S. and foreign officials, even people who want him to succeed said they thought he might last two years max. Others said less than a year.

... The president-elect has named a raft of special envoys whose jobs seem to overlap with State Department posts — setting up competition that could dwarf that of previous administrations. Some may set up shop in the White House, meaning they’ll have more direct access to Trump. One is Richard Grenell, who is beloved by the MAGA crowd but deeply alarms traditional U.S. diplomats. Grenell has long wanted to be secretary of State and some predict he’ll eventually replace Rubio; for now, he’s settling for “presidential envoy for special missions,” a job that can mean just about anything. Trump also selected Tammy Bruce as the State Department’s spokesperson; she’s previously trashed Rubio.

... There are other realities that work against Rubio. He and Trump were bitter rivals who exchanged memorable insults in the 2016 presidential race. While they long ago made up and Rubio has since aligned himself more with Trump’s views, the odds are high that the two will differ on policy. For example, Rubio has a long history of support for human rights causes; Trump is less interested.

...Trump and his acolytes view the department’s thousands of career diplomats as key figures resisting his agenda — globalists who don’t believe in America First. (Trump once called it the “Deep State Department.”) So initiatives that originate from the Foreign Service are unlikely to be prioritized.

One former Biden administration official hypothesized that Trump is fine with putting Rubio in Foggy Bottom — for now — because he “doesn’t see any role for the State Department in making foreign policy.”

... The department’s influence has been eroding for decades, often because the leaner, faster White House-based National Security Council and the better-funded Pentagon tend to shove it aside. Under Biden, for example, Secretary of State Antony Blinken himself has been looped in on decisions related to fighting in the Middle East, but his department’s bureau that deals with that region has largely been frozen out, multiple current and former U.S. diplomats have told me and my colleagues. ..."
 
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www.politico.com

Marco Rubio Isn’t Likely to Last Long as Secretary of State​


He’s being undermined by fellow Republicans, and that’s before he shows up to lead a workforce Trump distrusts.

"...Rubio’s committee hearing is set for Wednesday and he’s expected to be one of the first Trump nominees to take up his post.

But he’ll be lucky to last a year at Foggy Bottom. Rubio already is being undermined — through push-back from Trump’s MAGA base, the naming of other Trump appointees with overlapping portfolios as well as the essentially weak nature of the position he’s inheriting. In my conversations with about a dozen current and former U.S. and foreign officials, even people who want him to succeed said they thought he might last two years max. Others said less than a year.

... The president-elect has named a raft of special envoys whose jobs seem to overlap with State Department posts — setting up competition that could dwarf that of previous administrations. Some may set up shop in the White House, meaning they’ll have more direct access to Trump. One is Richard Grenell, who is beloved by the MAGA crowd but deeply alarms traditional U.S. diplomats. Grenell has long wanted to be secretary of State and some predict he’ll eventually replace Rubio; for now, he’s settling for “presidential envoy for special missions,” a job that can mean just about anything. Trump also selected Tammy Bruce as the State Department’s spokesperson; she’s previously trashed Rubio.

... There are other realities that work against Rubio. He and Trump were bitter rivals who exchanged memorable insults in the 2016 presidential race. While they long ago made up and Rubio has since aligned himself more with Trump’s views, the odds are high that the two will differ on policy. For example, Rubio has a long history of support for human rights causes; Trump is less interested.

...Trump and his acolytes view the department’s thousands of career diplomats as key figures resisting his agenda — globalists who don’t believe in America First. (Trump once called it the “Deep State Department.”) So initiatives that originate from the Foreign Service are unlikely to be prioritized.

One former Biden administration official hypothesized that Trump is fine with putting Rubio in Foggy Bottom — for now — because he “doesn’t see any role for the State Department in making foreign policy.”

... The department’s influence has been eroding for decades, often because the leaner, faster White House-based National Security Council and the better-funded Pentagon tend to shove it aside. Under Biden, for example, Secretary of State Antony Blinken himself has been looped in on decisions related to fighting in the Middle East, but his department’s bureau that deals with that region has largely been frozen out, multiple current and former U.S. diplomats have told me and my colleagues. ..."
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This is going to be such a shitshow. I truly can't believe anyone voted for this moron because they thought the next four years would be better than the last four.
 
nycfan said:

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www.politico.com

Marco Rubio Isn’t Likely to Last Long as Secretary of State​


He’s being undermined by fellow Republicans, and that’s before he shows up to lead a workforce Trump distrusts.

"...Rubio’s committee hearing is set for Wednesday and he’s expected to be one of the first Trump nominees to take up his post.

But he’ll be lucky to last a year at Foggy Bottom. Rubio already is being undermined — through push-back from Trump’s MAGA base, the naming of other Trump appointees with overlapping portfolios as well as the essentially weak nature of the position he’s inheriting. In my conversations with about a dozen current and former U.S. and foreign officials, even people who want him to succeed said they thought he might last two years max. Others said less than a year.

... The president-elect has named a raft of special envoys whose jobs seem to overlap with State Department posts — setting up competition that could dwarf that of previous administrations. Some may set up shop in the White House, meaning they’ll have more direct access to Trump. One is Richard Grenell, who is beloved by the MAGA crowd but deeply alarms traditional U.S. diplomats. Grenell has long wanted to be secretary of State and some predict he’ll eventually replace Rubio; for now, he’s settling for “presidential envoy for special missions,” a job that can mean just about anything. Trump also selected Tammy Bruce as the State Department’s spokesperson; she’s previously trashed Rubio.

... There are other realities that work against Rubio. He and Trump were bitter rivals who exchanged memorable insults in the 2016 presidential race. While they long ago made up and Rubio has since aligned himself more with Trump’s views, the odds are high that the two will differ on policy. For example, Rubio has a long history of support for human rights causes; Trump is less interested.

...Trump and his acolytes view the department’s thousands of career diplomats as key figures resisting his agenda — globalists who don’t believe in America First. (Trump once called it the “Deep State Department.”) So initiatives that originate from the Foreign Service are unlikely to be prioritized.

One former Biden administration official hypothesized that Trump is fine with putting Rubio in Foggy Bottom — for now — because he “doesn’t see any role for the State Department in making foreign policy.”

... The department’s influence has been eroding for decades, often because the leaner, faster White House-based National Security Council and the better-funded Pentagon tend to shove it aside. Under Biden, for example, Secretary of State Antony Blinken himself has been looped in on decisions related to fighting in the Middle East, but his department’s bureau that deals with that region has largely been frozen out, multiple current and former U.S. diplomats have told me and my colleagues. ..."
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Not really a surprise. Trump has made clear that in his second term he only wants blind loyalists who will do his bidding without question, and Rubio has never been a true believer - he ran against Trump for the GOP nomination in 2016, and so his loyalty will be suspect from the beginning. Rubio has no spine, of course, and so he will likely do Trump's bidding, but I doubt that either Trump or the sycophants around him will ever really trust him or support him. And if he crosses Trump even once he'll be gone, imo.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
Trump only appoints the best people, the very best people. If Trump ordered Hegseth to use military force against American civilians who opposed him and were doing so peacefully, is there any doubt that this guy would gladly give the order to do so? "Guardrails", indeed.
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This is, of course, the only reason why anyone would pick that guy to lead the DoD. And all the GOP Senators either think that's a feature (e.g. Cotton) or are too cowardly to do anything.

Hey Joni Ernst, why are you so scared of a primary challenge? You're the fucking incumbent and you're popular. You have nothing to fear.
 
ZenMode said:
Also @rodoheel

Yes, I would say that. I would be absolutely shocked if a former member of the military would use the military on the people they've sworn to protect regardless of who requested it.
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Really? Even when that "former member of the military" is a sycophant and devotee of a man who routinely says that his political opponents inside this country are a bigger enemy than the autocrats and dictators who control our geopolitical foes?

When you put people in government who believe stuff like that - and many of the members of the military also believe it - you get the conditions that can create things like this:

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Kent State shootings - Wikipedia

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Oh, good, he invoked that old "smoke every cigarette in the pack" urban myth. Has this approach to teen smoking ever been shown to have any success? Seems to me that it would merely alienate the child, who would then smoke elsewhere because the child hasn't learned to hate cigs; they have just learned to hate smoking 20 cigs in a row.

When Hegseth invokes that analogy, he reveals himself as the asshole that he is, while not making any sense at all.

It's worth noting that men who hate minorities and are abusive to women typically have authoritarian personalities.
 
superrific said:
Oh, good, he invoked that old "smoke every cigarette in the pack" urban myth. Has this approach to teen smoking ever been shown to have any success? Seems to me that it would merely alienate the child, who would then smoke elsewhere because the child hasn't learned to hate cigs; they have just learned to hate smoking 20 cigs in a row.

When Hegseth invokes that analogy, he reveals himself as the asshole that he is, while not making any sense at all.

It's worth noting that men who hate minorities and are abusive to women typically have authoritarian personalities.
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Yeah, the analogy doesn’t make any sense. But there is a good chance he was drunk when he said it.
 
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