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Ramrouser said:
So you think Presidents draft their EOs? You think Biden had any general idea of what was put in front of him to sign? Trump talks about each EO as he signs them so he knows.
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Well, unlike Mike Johnson, Biden knew what he signed in the LNG Executive Order.

One significant difference between Biden and Trump is that Biden a) knows about law; b) cares about law; c) understands how the world works; and d) pays attention to details.

Trump doesn't even understand basic things, like how gravity affects water systems, the difference between northern and southern california, and the 14th Amendment, just to take some of his ignorance from the last week or so. This is a guy who doesn't even know how to pronounce Yosemite.
 
Callatoroy said:
I would like for it to happen under the right circumstances, i.e. greenlanders vote to become part of the US. I don't think that will happen. Greenland is in a position of leverage. The US desperately needs its rare earth minerals and other resources to reduce the dependence on china. I think greenland could have its cake and eat it to if they chose the right negotiator. They could set up the residents for a long time and get full state's rights or limited rights depending on what they want. Or, they could negotiate a long term land lease that gives them the financial resources and gives the US sole rights to the resources. It's a good time to be a greenlander.

Read the article I posted from the Guardian. It was very informative on the mindset of greenlanders. Whatever happens, I hope we don't fuck them over and we get what we want and they get what they want.
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Full states rights? While DC and Puerto Rico still don’t?

What Greenlanders want is independence. But there are only 68,000 people there.

Maybe Apex or Huntersville should get full states rights….they have about the same number of people.
 
altmin said:
But 25% on our closest ally. Makes sense.
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I'm not knowledgeable about the amount of drugs coming in from Canada. He obviously has some reason for it so what is the story of fentanyl coming through canada and why does trump think canada isn't doing anything to stop it?
 
farce© said:
Full states rights? While DC and Puerto Rico still don’t?

What Greenlanders want is independence. But there are only 68,000 people there.

Maybe Apex or Huntersville should get full states rights….they have about the same number of people.
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Greenland is in a far better position to negotiate for whatever they want. When PR, DC, apex and huntersville discover the 2nd largest deposits of rare earth minerals in the world they too can be in a position of power. They could ask for $50,000 per resident per year and it wouldn't be but a drop in the bucket for the value of the resources and expanded military possibilities. They nor Denmark have the finances to develop the island.
 
superrific said:
Well, unlike Mike Johnson, Biden knew what he signed in the LNG Executive Order.

One significant difference between Biden and Trump is that Biden a) knows about law; b) cares about law; c) understands how the world works; and d) pays attention to details.

Trump doesn't even understand basic things, like how gravity affects water systems, the difference between northern and southern california, and the 14th Amendment, just to take some of his ignorance from the last week or so. This is a guy who doesn't even know how to pronounce Yosemite.
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Seriously, the Biden of the last 3-4 years? You sound like KJP touting Biden's tremendous physical stamina ("none of us can keep up with him") and mental sharpness "behind the scenes."
 
Interesting article from the Cato Institute.



  • Fentanyl smuggling is ultimately funded by U.S. consumers who pay for illicit opioids: nearly 99 percent of whom are U.S. citizens.
  • In 2021, U.S. citizens were 86.3 percent of convicted fentanyl drug traffickers—ten times greater than convictions of illegal immigrants for the same offense.
  • Over 90 percent of fentanyl seizures occur at legal crossing points or interior vehicle checkpoints, not on illegal migration routes, so U.S. citizens (who are subject to less scrutiny) when crossing legally are the best smugglers.
  • The location of smuggling makes sense because hard drugs at ports of entry are about 97 percent less likely to be stopped than are people crossing illegally between them.
  • Just 0.02 percent of the people arrested by Border Patrol for crossing illegally possessed any fentanyl whatsoever.
  • The government exacerbated the problem by banning most
 
farce© said:
See, this is where your response goes off the rails…
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My take is that Trump has to do something dramatic because he has said our economy is in the dumps (when it is strong in reality), so he can’t just do nothing (as he should).
So he comes up with this dumb Tariff idea and then invents reasons for needing them.

My best guess is that in the end he will do some tariffs that will do minimal harm and then MAGAs will pretend the tariffs saved our economy.
 
Ramrouser said:
Seriously, the Biden of the last 3-4 years? You sound like KJP touting Biden's tremendous physical stamina ("none of us can keep up with him") and mental sharpness "behind the scenes."
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Buddy, Donald Trump's White House physician wrote in a report during the first administration that he was the healthiest and most fit person he's ever seen, when everyone's own eyes can see that he is an enormous tub of lard who is about three double quarter pounder combo meals away from getting buried next to Ivana at Bedminster.
 

U.S. border agents told to summarily deport migrants without granting asylum hearings under Trump edict​


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U.S. border agents told to summarily deport migrants without granting asylum hearings under Trump edict

U.S. border agents have been instructed to summarily deport migrants crossing into the country illegally without allowing them to request legal protection.
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“… Internal government documents indicate that, as of Tuesday night, the president's "full" 212(f) authority was being implemented across Texas' border with Mexico, making nearly all migrants who arrive there subject to quick expulsion. The documents cite the public health-related 212(f) authority that applies to "aliens that traveled through a country with a communicable disease."

Mr. Trump's edict also applies to Border Patrol coastal sectors, including the one in Florida, and the U.S.-Canada border. The documents indicate Canadian authorities will be asked to accept those who cross the northern border illegally, beyond those asylum claimants the U.S. and Canada already exchange under a "safe-third-country" agreement.

Two Customs and Border Protection officials, who requested anonymity to discuss internal guidance, said migrants will not be allowed to see an immigration judge or asylum officer under Mr. Trump's edict, which effectively suspends U.S. obligations under domestic and international law to ensure people fleeing persecution are not returned to danger. …”
 
superrific said:
In my view, if Trump were to order troops to invade Greenland, it would be an illegal order, and if Trump insisted, the military leadership would have to detain him. US Law obligates the United States to come to the defense of Greenland in the case of invasion, and that would be the best defense the military could offer.
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We aren’t a society based upon law, anymore.
 
Ramrouser said:
Seriously, the Biden of the last 3-4 years? You sound like KJP touting Biden's tremendous physical stamina ("none of us can keep up with him") and mental sharpness "behind the scenes."
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So when Mike Johnson said that Biden didn't know what he had signed, and it turned out that Biden did know, was Mike Johnson lying, or uninformed, or simply not as bright as Joe? Because it is inarguable that Biden never signed an EO that resembled what Mike Johnson attributed to him.

And yes, even in a diminished state, Biden understands law way better than Trump ever did. You might want to sit this one out, since you also don't understand law and probably aren't fit to judge that particular contest.
 

White House sidelines 160 National Security Council detailees as it reviews staffing to align team with Trump’s agenda​


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White House sidelines 160 National Security Council detailees as it reviews staffing to align team with Trump's agenda

President Donald Trump’s national security adviser has sidelined about 160 National Security Council staffers, telling them to work from home while the administration reviews staffing and tries to align it with Trump’s agenda.
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“… The career government employees, commonly referred to as detailees, were summoned on Wednesday to an all-staff call in which they were told that they’ll be expected to be available to the NSC’s senior directors but would not need to report to the White House. The NSC, a White House arm, provides national security and foreign policy advice to the president.

Trump, a Republican, is sidelining these nonpolitical subject matter experts on topics that range from counterterrorism to global climate policy at a time when the U.S. is grappling with a disparate set of complicated foreign policy matters, including conflicts in Ukraine and the Middle East. Such structuring could also make new policy experts brought in to the NSC less likely to speak up about policy differences and concerns.

… Some directors have already made decisions to inform detailees they will be sent back to the federal agencies they were on loan from. For example, multiple holdover detailees assigned to counterterrorism directorate were told on Tuesday that their assignment was being cut short and that they will be sent back to their home agencies, according to two people familiar with the move who were not not authorized to comment publicly. …

The NSC was launched as an arm of the White House during the Truman administration, tasked with advising and assisting the president on national security and foreign policy and coordinating among various government agencies. It is common for experts detailed to the NSC to carry over from one administration to the next, even when the White House changes parties. …”
 
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