Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)

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ZenMode said:
I will sleep the sleep of angels knowing that these NSA employees are working hard at (cough) protecting the country. (cough). Again, how dumb do you have to be to post these things on an internal messaging tool?20250226_062531.jpg
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I am not sure why anyone would use an internal message board at work for personal discussions (maybe because their security systems prevent general internet access all day and they have the same need for discussion as most internet board posters?) but otherwise I am struggling to see the outrage about these discussions among people who have apparently had sex change operations?
 
nycfan said:
I am not sure why anyone would use an internal message board at work for personal discussions (maybe because their security systems prevent general internet access all day and they have the same need for discussion as most internet board posters?) but otherwise I am struggling to see the outrage about these discussions among people who have apparently had sex change operations?
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I agree that there is absolutely nothing inherently wrong with adults discussing these things and infinitely more graphic should they want to.... On their own time and on apps that are not internal to the NSA and intended for intelligence community use.
 
ZenMode said:
I agree that there is absolutely nothing inherently wrong with adults discussing these things and infinitely more graphic should they want to.... On their own time and on apps that are not internal to the NSA and intended for intelligence community use.
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I would think...but maybe I'm insane...that i would weigh out the overall value of the employees versus the obviously inappropriate use of work assets. There are tools to discipline poor work behavior that fall short of termination. However, I generally think of people as having flaws that lead them to make mistakes when they might otherwise be beneficial to the organization.

What I'm not into is the overall performance art on display here. If you honestly believe that the only inappropriate chats to be found on that same server have to do with trans folks, then I don't know what to tell ya.

Also, trusting Tulsi Gabbard might be even more short sighted than trusting Elon Musk.
 
ZenMode said:
I agree that there is absolutely nothing inherently wrong with adults discussing these things and infinitely more graphic should they want to.... On their own time and on apps that are not internal to the NSA and intended for intelligence community use.
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Why? If it's not a security issue,( if it is, it's a due process issue) which you say it isn't, then it's a free speech issue. Do you not think that having operatives and agents of different orientation or with an understanding of alternative lifestyles might be more efficient in infiltrating or making contact with a lot of elements than a bunch of white bread males with a stick up their ass? I do.
 
OGtruthhurts said:
isnt that cute.......now how many women and children deaths did biden allow in the area? neither party gives a fuck altho i understand why controlled sheep think differently
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Shut it, worm. You've already admitted your take on politics is meaningless to anybody, including you.
 
finesse said:
Shut it, worm. You've already admitted your take on politics is meaningless to anybody, including you.
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Best to just not respond to him. He’s playing a tired, worn out, recycled, pathetic bit that nobody finds clever and adds less value than even the dumbest would-be troll. Best to just let him talk to himself. I think at this point most of us just pity him and hope that he finds the psychiatric help he most likely needs.
 
wmheel1287 said:
I would think...but maybe I'm insane...that i would weigh out the overall value of the employees versus the obviously inappropriate use of work assets. There are tools to discipline poor work behavior that fall short of termination. However, I generally think of people as having flaws that lead them to make mistakes when they might otherwise be beneficial to the organization.

What I'm not into is the overall performance art on display here. If you honestly believe that the only inappropriate chats to be found on that same server have to do with trans folks, then I don't know what to tell ya.

Also, trusting Tulsi Gabbard might be even more short sighted than trusting Elon Musk.
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This is all assuming that the reports are true. I posted the chat screenshots to give some legitimacy to the claims, not because they are unusually explicit. I posted more details from the original article below.

What is the overall value of employees who are so unintelligent that they would think it acceptable to use a tool dedicated to intelligence related to national security for personal chat of any kind? I have occasional personal chats on MS Teams, but they're one-on-one, not on a general, public board.

Second, what is the overall value of employees who are so unaware that they not only waste an intelligence community board for personal chat, but explicit personal chat (some detail below).

Are these really the quality of people, and level of decision making ability, we want working in national security?

One popular chat topic was male-to-female transgender surgery, which involves surgically removing the penis and turning it into an artificial vagina. “[M]ine is everything,” said one male who claimed to have had gender reconstruction surgery. “’ve found that i like being penetrated (never liked it before GRS), but all the rest is just as important as well.” Another intelligence official boasted that genital surgery allowed him “to wear leggings or bikinis without having to wear a gaff under it.”

These employees discussed hair removal, estrogen injections, and the experience of sexual pleasure post-castration. “[G]etting my butthole zapped by a laser was . . . shocking,” said one transgender-identifying intel employee who spent thousands on hair removal. “Look, I just enjoy helping other people experience boobs,” said another about estrogen treatments. “[O]ne of the weirdest things that gives me euphoria is when i pee, i don’t have to push anything down to make sure it aims right,” a Defense Intelligence Agency employee added.
 
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nycfan said:
The GOP needed (and got) this guy’s vote to get their budget plan through its first procedural hurdle last night.
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Not cool Trump lawyers.

Kind of surprised that the US attorney handles DC crimes. DC has their own police force and other services. I would have thought the prosecutors office would fall under local control as well.
 
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