Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)

[SnoopRob]

I am missing the joke(??)

If you're missing it, I am too.

 

[nycfan]

[edited - thx]

Super, the snipers/assassins line may be intended as humor (I honestly cannot tell) but crosses into (apparent) violent rhetoric we really don’t want to host. Would appreciate if you would edit the remark.

 

[Callatoroy]

Huh?
It was an attempt to get some slowdown and a Big Increase in judges looking at legit entrys

He could have done that with an executive order. Getting some slowdown didn't require passage of the bill. Unilaterally he could have shut the border down. Agree?

 

[superrific]

Super, the snipers/assassins line may be intended as humor (I honestly cannot tell) but crosses into (apparent) violent rhetoric we really don’t want to host. Would appreciate if you would edit the remark.

I would have thought an avid Simpsons fan would have appreciated the reference (though admittedly I added the assassins part). But I will edit.

 

[gtyellowjacket]

I don't think it would have mattered if they both would have known and advised against it. trump was going to do what he wanted because not pardoning all is an admission that there was some culpability.

I don't know about that. Even Trump made comments a few weeks back that there may be exceptions for radicals and crazies.

I suspect that a few of those guys will go down like the pizza guy or worse and it will hurt Trump.

 

[nycfan]

I would have thought an avid Simpsons fan would have appreciated the reference (though admittedly I added the assassins part). But I will edit.

Thanks! I did not register a Simpsons quote but figured I was missing something.

 

[superrific]

 

[Callatoroy]

From Wiki…

Ogles graduated from Franklin High School and later attended Western Kentucky University and Columbia State Community Collegefrom 1990 to 1993, studying allied language arts and English.

Ogles later studied at Middle Tennessee State University (MTSU), where he failed every course taken in the fall of 1995 and the fall of 1998; he returned to the university in 2007 and graduated with a 2.4 grade point average, with a Bachelor of Science in liberal studies.

Just a complete dumb ass for making a comment like that. I was hoping comments like that were limited to green and lb.

 

[superrific]

He could have done that with an executive order. Getting some slowdown didn't require passage of the bill. Unilaterally he could have shut the border down. Agree?

We've been through this before on this board. The answer is no. It is not an opinion. There are statutes and regulations and international law that requires the border to be open. The president cannot just repeal that.

Also, learn what an executive order is. My son studied them in high school government class. He understands them. Why don't you?

 

[DiehardHeelFan]

Trump's mass deportation plan could drain more than $20 billion a year from Social Security​

Trump's mass deportation plan could drain more than $20 billion a year from Social Security

President Donald Trump's mass deportation plans could have a significant economic side effect: draining Social Security funding.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[ChapelHillSooner]

Classic Republican policy proposal - do something mean and cruel and deceptively simple that would require a massive administrative effort just to begin to administer. Sort of like idiotic "drug test people on welfare" proposals but way more work and also blatantly unconstitutional just for fun.

A possibly intended side effect is that in the future, only people with means will be able to prove their citizenship. People whose parents have passports might have an easily obtainable record of their parents passports as their parents would have done the leg work (possibly just producing one of their own parents' passports) to prove their own citizenship.

But a person in poverty won't have parents with passports. They might actually have to produce that chain of passports going back generations and that might be impossible / expensive.

Also, look for fraud in this space. One sister who is a citizen might claim the baby is hers. Or a person claims a different daddy. Oh, and are they going to require genetic testing of the dads when the mom isn't a citizen?

Such a mess.

 

[Healing]

My god, the gaslighting/projection lol

Yeah, if there's one thing that defines Trumpism, it's *checks notes* intellectualism

Dave Rubin is paid by Putin. He’s long gone full right wing grift.

Also, yes, everything is a projection of exactly what the right wingers are already doing, or planning to do.

 

[ChapelHillSooner]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism?wprov=sfti1

MAGA is getting conservatism back to its roots, IMO.

"Conservatives tend to favor institutions and practices that enhance social order and historical continuity."

Please explain how MAGAs are favoring institutions or historical continuity? They are tearing institutions apart and setting fire to our constitutional order.

 

[aGDevil2k]

Elon thinks he has so much money he is invincible. His demise will be hilarious and glorious.

 

[Callatoroy]

I don't know about that. Even Trump made comments a few weeks back that there may be exceptions for radicals and crazies.

I suspect that a few of those guys will go down like the pizza guy or worse and it will hurt Trump.

Maybe you are right, but I think in order for him to look as blameless as possible to his base he had to let them all go to continue the rouse.

 

[ChapelHillSooner]

Again, the facial expression gives the intent away.

Nobody has that facial expression when trying to give their heart to others. There is defiance there.

And I am not buying the Autism angle. While people with Autism often have trouble reading others, their faces don't lie because it is all subconscious.

 

[sringwal]

He could have done that with an executive order. Getting some slowdown didn't require passage of the bill. Unilaterally he could have shut the border down. Agree?

Callatory - lawtig has offered up his definition. Since you are adamant that he doesn’t understand what the word means, would you do us the courtesy of offering up yours as well?

 

[HintonJamesHeel]

Executive order abuse has gotten totally out of control. Obama did it too much but the practice that is in place now is totally insane. Trump just signing things into effect is insanity.

 

[ChileG]

Good for Trump.

 

[rodoheel]

"Conservatives tend to favor institutions and practices that enhance social order and historical continuity."

Please explain how MAGAs are favoring institutions or historical continuity? They are tearing institutions apart and setting fire to our constitutional order.

Yes, this is another way that MAGA is divorced from what American conservatism has analytically presented itself as. But in the global conservative tradition it's perfectly consistent. MAGA prizes things that they see as traditionally part of their version of cultural "American values" - gender roles, Christianity, lack of regulation, gun ownership, white Americans (and in some cases white male Americans) having firm control of cultural and political institutions, etc. - and they want to get back to that. And keep in mind that MAGA is really a cultural movement as much of a political one; its members are frustrated and motivated by perceived cultural displacement as much (and for many of them, likely more) as by political issues.