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Now you’re just antagonizing.
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Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)
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gtyellowjacket
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Honestly think it might be a little more than that based on his posts from the last couple of months. Things appear to be spiraling. If someone said this stuff on 4chan about Biden or Harris or Trump, I'm guessing the secret service would be visiting.
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How am I wrong? It' s not just Jefferson. "Ideating homicide" by nycfan's definition is an integral part of our intellectual tradition and heritage. It is almost impossible to talk about political theory without confronting the subject. What about Malcolm X? Eugene Debs?
One of the most important influences on the Founding Fathers was John Locke. Locke's philosophy is steeped in a tradition of discussing violence. Locke's philosophy, after all, was a direct response to Thomas, "life is short, brutish and nasty" Hobbes. And Locke's solution, and the solution of the Framers, and the solution of the county through its entire history, has been the rule of law. The possibility of the rule of law is the answer to Hobbes.
To say that eliminating the rule of law risks taking us back to Hobbes cannot possibly be a bad thing to say. And since the oligarchs seem to think they are all-powerful and cannot be stopped as they eviscerate the rule of law, then what else am I supposed to hope? Musk is a uniquely dangerous person. He will cause lots of deaths if unchecked. He will kill a lot of people.
More importantly, ELON MUSK is out there calling for homicide. He is actively ideating homicide. If he were to die, many lives will be saved.
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There is nothing at all illegal about saying "I hope for Luigi." That is protected expression and you're an idiot who knows nothing about the law.
I mean, half the country was ***openly celebrating*** Luigi, even though he had no actual justification for what he did.
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From Dec. 5, 2024. Longer read, worth it.
Whether or not Trump and Musk have a falling apart and Musk leaves; or, Trump and/or Musk die, are incapacitated, or voluntarily leave the public arena, the Heritage Foundation shock troops will still implement Project 2025.
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Your read and response on near everything is through the lens of gaining attention for yourself and antagonizing, so you can imply my sentiment towards your disingenuousness, irrespective of whether we agree or disagree on any respective topic. That is, fuck you for leveraging my post to take a potshot, Good German.
gtyellowjacket
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Well I don't feel that way. I'm just concerned for him. I hope I'm wrong and if I'm not wrong, I hope he gets the help he needs.
And more than anything, I hope him wishing that someone is killed doesn't lead to him making it happen. I know that's almost certainly hysterical, but I'm sure that wishing and hoping led to making for every assassin.
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I'll happily accept the egg on my face if I'm wrong, but I'll be shocked if the Canadian tariffs aren't canceled by no later than 4:00pm ET.
No idea about China, but those are of only marginal importance anyway. I'm not at all convinced Chinese tariffs are actually collected.
No idea about China, but those are of only marginal importance anyway. I'm not at all convinced Chinese tariffs are actually collected.
How’s your Canadian accent? Better yet, Maritime accent?
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Mexico agrees to sending troops to the border which happened previously during the Biden administration without threats of tariffs and Trump agrees to stop gun smuggling from the U.S. into Mexico...
great use of leverage Donald !
'Ooof!' Trump mocked for falling for 'trick' in Mexico tariff deal
President Donald Trump temporarily backed down on his tariff threats against Mexico after reaching an agreement with his counterpart Claudia Sheinbaum Pardo — which prompted a range of reactions.The two nations' presidents each announced an agreement on sending Mexican forces to the border to...
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Mexican president reveals U.S. concession Trump failed to mention as tariffs paused
Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum Pardo issued a "read-out" of her call with U.S. President Donald Trump on Monday — but her list of what the two leaders agreed to is different from his in one major respect: guns. Washington Post staff writer Meryl Kornfield pointed out on X that in...
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First they dismissed the head of the Consumer Financial Protection Board (which I posted in the general firings thread as a start), but close on the heels of that news comes this:
GIFT LINK --> https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy...d?st=dQ4bno&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink
"Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent is ordering a freeze to work at the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, after being named its acting director by President Trump.
In an internal email Monday, Bessent’s office directed CFPB staff to cease much of the bureau’s work, including on enforcement actions and decisions about active litigation. The email also directs staff to suspend the effective dates for rules that had been completed, but aren’t yet in effect.
Bessent’s appointment is the beginning of what is expected to be a rollback of many of the agency’s actions under the Biden administration, which included rules capping overdraft fees and banning the use of medical debt by credit-reporting companies.
Biden appointee Rohit Chopra was ousted on Friday, and Trump has yet to name a candidate to lead the CFPB on a permanent basis. It remains unclear what approach the administration will take to the agency during Trump’s second term as president.
Republicans have long wanted to rein in or even eliminate the agency. ..."
Bessent Takes Helm of Consumer Finance Watchdog, Orders Halt to Work
CFPB is told to cease efforts on enforcement actions, active litigation
GIFT LINK --> https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy...d?st=dQ4bno&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink
"Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent is ordering a freeze to work at the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, after being named its acting director by President Trump.
In an internal email Monday, Bessent’s office directed CFPB staff to cease much of the bureau’s work, including on enforcement actions and decisions about active litigation. The email also directs staff to suspend the effective dates for rules that had been completed, but aren’t yet in effect.
Bessent’s appointment is the beginning of what is expected to be a rollback of many of the agency’s actions under the Biden administration, which included rules capping overdraft fees and banning the use of medical debt by credit-reporting companies.
Biden appointee Rohit Chopra was ousted on Friday, and Trump has yet to name a candidate to lead the CFPB on a permanent basis. It remains unclear what approach the administration will take to the agency during Trump’s second term as president.
Republicans have long wanted to rein in or even eliminate the agency. ..."
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"... The CFPB, created under a Wall Street legislative overhaul after the 2007-08 financial crisis, has the authority to regulate financial products such as mortgages and credit cards. Under Chopra, the bureau took an expansive view of the products it could regulate, sparking legal challenges by industry groups to some of its proposed rules."
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How about you start a new thread to argue this rather than derail this one.
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Lol @ Trump.Mexico agrees to sending troops to the border which happened previously during the Biden administration without threats of tariffs and Trump agrees to stop gun smuggling from the U.S. into Mexico...
great use of leverage Donald !
'Ooof!' Trump mocked for falling for 'trick' in Mexico tariff deal
President Donald Trump temporarily backed down on his tariff threats against Mexico after reaching an agreement with his counterpart Claudia Sheinbaum Pardo — which prompted a range of reactions.The two nations' presidents each announced an agreement on sending Mexican forces to the border to...
Mexican president reveals U.S. concession Trump failed to mention as tariffs paused
Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum Pardo issued a "read-out" of her call with U.S. President Donald Trump on Monday — but her list of what the two leaders agreed to is different from his in one major respect: guns. Washington Post staff writer Meryl Kornfield pointed out on X that in...
The great negotiator, my ass.
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super, the history lesson is deflecting from “nycfan would short circuit.”