Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)

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uncmba said:
So ethnically cleanse an area inhabited by these folks for thousands of years, build huge skyscrapers with tens of thousands of western tourists, and expect no terrorist attacks?
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They'll be so grateful to Trump that they will say that he's the greatest leader ever. Probably have tears in their eyes when they tell him.
 
HesNaughtHere said:
Shout-out to any potential Dem voters that sat out (or voted for Trump) over Biden/Harris's handling of the Gaza situation.

Brilliant strategy
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I will preface this to say that I, and nearly all the pro-Palestine people that I know, ended up voting for Harris. We all knew that Trump would be worse (even though the Dems were not great either).

However, blaming other pro-Palestinian voters for Trump winning is just a way to find someone to blame other than the dems themselves. Even if they all voted Harris, it might have won Michigan for her, but it would not have been enough to flip the election. There were much bigger issues that caused that.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
Trump is trolling. Possibly hoping to distract from the tax cuts for rich people going through Congress. And its going to work.
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Sure he may be trolling and he sure looooves the attention, but it's just SO incomprehensible that this man is president. And that millions of people voted for him and love him, and what that says about us as a society. Republicans used to run on values, but really it turns out that MAGA values are to be the most selfish, greedy humans possible. (Unless you're in their in-group, in which case they might be kind on an as-needed basis.) Pitiful.
 
tallheel95 said:
Sure he may be trolling and he sure looooves the attention, but it's just SO incomprehensible that this man is president. And that millions of people voted for him and love him, and what that says about us as a society. Republicans used to run on values, but really it turns out that MAGA values are to be the most selfish, greedy humans possible. (Unless you're in their in-group, in which case they might be kind on an as-needed basis.) Pitiful.
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Its astounding, but I doubt it happens. No country is going to take those Palestinians, and the Europeans will make Israel and us miserable to stop it or slow it long enough for Trump to be gone.

Trump's first term, he sent Kushner to negotiate a deal between the Israelis and Palestinians that didn't include the Palestinians and was thus completely tilted towards the Israelis. Much gnashing of teeth but in the end, nothing happened.
 
finesse said:
blatherskites
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TIL this word. Today forward, I will use this word.
tallheel95 said:
Sure he may be trolling
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Yes, absolutely. Also, I’ve said this time and again, don isn’t particularly clever. He’s floods the zone, self promotes, and he has zero conscience so he understands how to identify a mark. Those are his superpowers. What comes out of his “mouth” is genuine insight into his worldview and aims, bc he has relatively no inner executive.

If don can make a version of this grotesque video come to light, he’ll absolutely do it, it just depends on what it costs him elsewhere. Whether it’s imperializing Gaza, Greenland, or parts of Canada (seems truly absurd) don’s psychology fixates on tangibles, and relatively nothing is more tangible than land and structures. See his obsession with Mt. Rushmore.

Don is a rapidly deteriorating old narcissistic sociopath, with what to his name, other than a social movement based on bigotry and political “principles” as firm as boiled noodles? He sees imperialism as a legacy project.
 
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So they're firing people for talking about being trans at work? Because I read that exchange and that's the entirety of the discussion - was GRS worth it, would it be easier to obtain under Tricare (their US Government provided healthcare), how it impacted their quality of life and dysphoria, etc.

In 2014 I suffered a pretty catastrophic sports injury and needed surgery. Sometimes people would ask me about it. Does anyone really think I and those asking should have been fired for those discussions on the clock?

These people are being targeted for being LGBTQ, rather than any substantive violation of law or policy.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
Not cool Trump lawyers.

Kind of surprised that the US attorney handles DC crimes. DC has their own police force and other services. I would have thought the prosecutors office would fall under local control as well.
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They are *not* Trump's lawyers. That's the point. They're the United States Attorney's Office. They represent the United States, and that entity is not coterminous with the President.
 
ZenMode said:
This is all assuming that the reports are true. I posted the chat screenshots to give some legitimacy to the claims, not because they are unusually explicit. I posted more details from the original article below.

What is the overall value of employees who are so unintelligent that they would think it acceptable to use a tool dedicated to intelligence related to national security for personal chat of any kind? I have occasional personal chats on MS Teams, but they're one-on-one, not on a general, public board.

Second, what is the overall value of employees who are so unaware that they not only waste an intelligence community board for personal chat, but explicit personal chat (some detail below).

Are these really the quality of people, and level of decision making ability, we want working in national security?

One popular chat topic was male-to-female transgender surgery, which involves surgically removing the penis and turning it into an artificial vagina. “[M]ine is everything,” said one male who claimed to have had gender reconstruction surgery. “’ve found that i like being penetrated (never liked it before GRS), but all the rest is just as important as well.” Another intelligence official boasted that genital surgery allowed him “to wear leggings or bikinis without having to wear a gaff under it.”

These employees discussed hair removal, estrogen injections, and the experience of sexual pleasure post-castration. “[G]etting my butthole zapped by a laser was . . . shocking,” said one transgender-identifying intel employee who spent thousands on hair removal. “Look, I just enjoy helping other people experience boobs,” said another about estrogen treatments. “[O]ne of the weirdest things that gives me euphoria is when i pee, i don’t have to push anything down to make sure it aims right,” a Defense Intelligence Agency employee added.
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What is the overall value then of nearly everyone appointed by Donald Trump? What is the overall value of Elon Musk himself? These folks post, say, and do things that are far more eggregious. Is that the level of decision making ability we want controlling every aspect of our government including national security?

Or is that kind of thinking simply a straw man argument to avoid the pretty obvious conclusion that these folks are likely being fired for theater rather than any kind of weighty decision of their overall value to national security?
 
ZenMode said:
I agree that there is absolutely nothing inherently wrong with adults discussing these things and infinitely more graphic should they want to.... On their own time and on apps that are not internal to the NSA and intended for intelligence community use.
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I don't think its a big deal. You are going to want National Security types discussing non work related things on these encrypted channels for a couple of reasons.

Knowledge workers always discuss personal business on these types of platforms. If you use slack or teams at your job, surely not every message is work related.

Using an encrypted communication medium ensures that all conversations are protected instead of hoping that every employee knows when to switch back and forth between encrypted and non encrypted, even in the middle of a conversation. Its more foolproof. It also adds to the overall volume of traffic making it harder for nefarious actors to find the important stuff to try to decrypt.
 
nycfan said:
“… Deltek data indicates VA awarded $9.7 billion in contract obligations to service-disabled, veteran-owned businesses in federal fiscal year 2024, which equates to 14.3% of VA's $67.6 billion in total contract spend.

… Of the $81.1 million in savings claimed by DOGE, cuts to veteran-owned small businesses accounted for 89.2% of the claimed savings.

In looking at the total contract value, the cancellations of contracts held by the veteran-owned small businesses represented 81.7% of the $148.6 million in claimed cuts.

Five of the contracts are held by large businesses. One large business holds two of those contracts. The total awarded value is $19 million and DOGE expects savings of $606,000.

One nonprofit company and one woman-owned small business also saw their contracts cancelled.

In his X posting, Collins said that millions of dollars of contracts have been spent on consultants who are developing PowerPoint and taking meeting minutes.

“Folks, if you don’t know how to run PowerPoint slides learn. It’s a tutorial on your computer,” Collins said on his video.

But after looking at the DOGE database and its connection into the Federal Procurement Data System, it is hard to discern if any of the so-far cancelled contracts are for PowerPoint and notetaking. …”
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I knew it !!! I knew !!!

Just as I suspected, our veterans have been responsible for a large portion of government waste and fraud :mad:
 
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