Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)

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CHAMTRAIN said:
It's become apparent to me that "waste, fraud, and abuse" is not Musk wagging Trump. It's likely a long thought out GOP strategy on how to sell the unsellable to the masses. How do we get the poors to cheer for the cutting of programs that benefit them? How do we get them to celebrate slashing Medicaid? Food stamps? Consumer protections? Clean air? We will cage it as waste and fraud, all while sneaking through tax cuts for the wealthy.

This is just a well thought out strategy in motion, the rug pull will happen in the next few months when the DOD budget isn't touched and the "mandatory" cuts (aka removing the waste and fraud) to entitlement programs set in. It's being executed masterfully.
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And the masses responded how? They bought into the propaganda and bot spam online and even when presented with evidence to the contrary, still decided to vote for Trump.

Trump voters are selfish, indignant, ignorant and arrogant. Until they feel real pain, nothing will wake them from their delusion.
 

Trump administration and Musk's DOGE plan to fire nearly all CFPB staff and wind down agency, employees say​

In a trove of statements released late Thursday, federal employees said that the mass layoff was discussed in meetings they attended this month.

www.nbcnews.com

Trump administration and Musk's DOGE plan to fire nearly all CFPB staff and wind down agency, employees say

In a trove of statements released late Thursday, federal employees said that the mass layoff was discussed in meetings they attended this month.
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CHAMTRAIN said:
It's become apparent to me that "waste, fraud, and abuse" is not Musk wagging Trump. It's likely a long thought out GOP strategy on how to sell the unsellable to the masses. How do we get the poors to cheer for the cutting of programs that benefit them? How do we get them to celebrate slashing Medicaid? Food stamps? Consumer protections? Clean air? We will cage it as waste and fraud, all while sneaking through tax cuts for the wealthy.

This is just a well thought out strategy in motion, the rug pull will happen in the next few months when the DOD budget isn't touched and the "mandatory" cuts (aka removing the waste and fraud) to entitlement programs set in. It's being executed masterfully.
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The whole thing is one big grift to benefit themselves.
 
whatntarnation said:
The doge 'meeting with the bobs' team is firing people at the FDIC.

The FDIC isn't funded by taxpayers.
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The executive branch's powers to fire people at independent agencies doesn't depend on taxpayer funding. Either the executive is unitary or it's not. Of course, there's nothing in the constitution to support that "unitary executive" nonsense, but the Supreme Court doesn't see it that way. Still, it's not clear if the Supreme Court is going to overturn Humphrey's Executor; if not, then Trump will have to abide by limits (assuming he follows court orders).

The conservative justices are not known for their introspection, humility or willingness to admit mistakes, but I can't help but think that there are moments when Roberts reads about DOGE and the EO ending birthright citizenship and thinks, "what have I done?" And maybe he'll have a few of those moments when it really matters.

I sometimes think about the citizenship question case, Dept. of Commerce v. New York. That's the one where Roberts drafted an opinion that was almost certainly going to be a majority opinion upholding the government's attempt to add a citizenship question to the census. Indeed, the conservative justices all joined Parts III and IV -- i.e. laying out the case that the census bureau does have the freedom to do it. And then came Part V:

Altogether, the evidence tells a story that does not match the explanation the Secretary gave for his decision. In the Secretary’s telling, Commerce was simply acting on a routine data request from another agency. Yet the materials before us indicate that Commerce went to great lengths to elicit the request from DOJ (or any other willing agency). And unlike a typical case in which an agency may have both stated and unstated reasons for a decision, here the VRA enforcement rationale—the sole stated reason—seems to have been contrived

We are presented, in other words, with an explanation for agency action that is incongruent with what the record reveals about the agency’s priorities and decisionmaking process. It is rare to review a record as extensive as the one before us when evaluating informal agency action—and it should be. But having done so for the sufficient reasons we have explained, we cannot ignore the disconnect between the decision made and the explanation given. Our review is deferential, but we are “not required to exhibit a naiveté from which ordinary citizens are free.”

I think this opinion was the result of one of those rare moments of introspection. At a late stage in the case, it was revealed that one of the DOJ officials involved in the citizenship question had perjured himself in court (of course, he's now a partner at Jones Day because of course), and Roberts opened his eyes. Note the phrase naivete. It would apply well to the court's sanewashing of Trump's Muslim ban, and of course to the immunity case.

One wonders if the skeptical Roberts, who at the very end could not rubber stamp the chicanery of Wilbur Ross' Commerce Department, still exists.
 
Has anyone actually ever seen L. Paul Bremer and Elon Musk in the same room? Based on what Bremer did to the Iraqi government in 2004 and what Musk is doing to our government today, I worry that they are the same person.
 
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