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Got it.
Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)
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Maybe she wants a pony.
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Sure, if you ignore everything they've said about the endeavor, I could see how one would be optimistic. But anyone who listens to them talk for about ten seconds about it will realize that the likelihood that it will result in an objective and rational look at how the government can do things better is a fool. Their only goal is to hack and burn.
HeelYeah2012
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If you think we’ve addressed improper nutrition, we’ll have to agree to disagree. By many measures, America is less healthy now than it’s ever been. Poor diet, poor exercise are the main two culprits.
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The reality is that things like this are an uphill battle because of corporate lobbyists.
Sugarcoating the Truth: The Role of Lobbying in America’s Obesity Epidemic — Columbia Political Review
In January 2024, Indiana State Representative John Bartlett proposed a bill to ban high-fructose corn syrup from all food and beverage products sold in the state. The bill addresses certain ingredients unique to the American diet understood to be at the root of America’s obesity epidemic. A
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Bottom Line: Confectioners lobby up for sugar program showdown
Sugar The National Confectioners Association hired NVG to lobby on changes to sugar policy, one of the food and agriculture issues in the farm bill. The confectioners have pushed to reform the sug…
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The Bittersweet Truth: The Sugar Industry’s Manipulation of Nutrition Guidelines - Brown Political Review
For over fifty years, the sugar industry has led a campaign to diminish the negative perception of sugar and manipulate official nutrition guidelines.
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The food industry lobby groups behind the new school nutrition standards
No wonder Pop Tarts count as a whole grain.
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Cheese carve-out for school meals threatens student health
As USDA attempts to reduce salt in school meals, lobbying from Big Dairy could reverse progress—at the expense of children's health.
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No shit, sherlock.
2012. Piece of advice. Finesse is one of the most intelligent, and oldest, people here. I come from a political household, read the newspaper every morning growing up, and took a class on the 1990 N.C. senate election in fifth grade. And I can say, definitively, that finesse understands politics on a level far beyond my own. Listen to what he is saying because, right now, he is running circles around you and it's awkward to watch.
Name them. I'll bet all of them are about ignoring medical advice. Are you suggesting a nanny state where we force people to eat and exercise "properly" while still supporting people who celebrate the brain deads who reject vaccines.? Are you even aware that theories about proper nutrition are almost as common as versions of the Bible (3000) or Christian denominations (45,000) and about as controversial?
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That’s what freedom’s all about. You’re free to eat healthy or not—there are plenty of options, particularly for those with the money to pay for organic foods. And you’re free to exercise as much or as little as you’d like.
If you’re suggesting we need governmental intervention to promote healthy eating options and exercise, or that we need to somehow limit people’s freedom of choice—well, that seems a bit hypocritical coming from someone on the right, doesn’t it?
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Except those are the people who help us get the food to our tables. When food becomes sparse, the first who will be cut off will be those immigrants.
Could be a humanitarian disaster waiting to happen.
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Background on emergency powers —
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A Guide to Emergency Powers and Their Use
The 150 statutory powers that may become available to the president upon declaration of a national emergency.
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First of all, the middle sentence there is obviously laughable hyperbole. There is no metric by which one could claim that we are less healthy now than we've ever been. US life expectancy now is at least a decade longer than it was after WW2, and more than three decades longer than it was in the Reconstruction era. We may have a bigger obesity problem than we used to, but overall health is far superior than it used to be, in basically every way you want to measure it.
Second of all, it is absolutely right that poor diet and poor exercise are the main culprits in our unhealthiness, but those things are very difficult to fix because they are subject to personal choice. The government can do its best to keep particularly unhealthy things out of our food - and already does a lot of that! - but you can't stop people from choosing cheaper, calorie-dense carbs over fresh fruit and vegetables and lean meats (which tend to be more expensive). Rest assured RFK's desire to remove niche food additives will do absolutely nothing to make us healthier on the whole; contrary to what many gullible people believe, there is not some "poison" being added to our food to make us unhealthy (unless you want to count sugar and sodium, both of which are harmful in the amounts in which we consume them, which is not what RFK has been talking about).
As for exercise, you do what you can to promote healthy choices - make cities more walkable, tax gasoline and disincentivize automobile use, build parks and greenways and trails and lots of free, easily accessible spaces. But you can't force people to use those things. And, of course, that all costs tax money.
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Agreed @rodoheel. Removing niche additives from our processed foods to address the obesity epidemic is putting a band-aid on a bullet wound. There is almost an infinite number of better ways to improve health and nutrition in our country before reaching the "crazy anti-vax guy with radically insane views on health and nutrition should help make the government even bigger in choosing what you can and can't eat" stage of problem-solving.
In a vacuum I have absolutely zero issue whatsoever with saying that we should make a more concerted effort collectively to improve nutritional standards in our country. No issue whatsoever. Where I have an issue is that Republicans always, *always*, seem to have this magical ability to 1. identify a problem and 2. do literally the very exact thing that will do nothing to actually solve the problem. We see it with guns: they think the way to curb the gun violence epidemic is to....make sure more people have more guns, and with fewer and fewer restrictions on how they can buy them and who is allowed to buy them.
If we want to make a significant difference in improving health and nutritional outcomes in our country, let's do it, by all means! But it's going to require a ton of heavy lifting- and *gasp* expenditure of taxable resources!- to get it done, which means it is a complete non-starter on the right hand side of the political aisle.
In a vacuum I have absolutely zero issue whatsoever with saying that we should make a more concerted effort collectively to improve nutritional standards in our country. No issue whatsoever. Where I have an issue is that Republicans always, *always*, seem to have this magical ability to 1. identify a problem and 2. do literally the very exact thing that will do nothing to actually solve the problem. We see it with guns: they think the way to curb the gun violence epidemic is to....make sure more people have more guns, and with fewer and fewer restrictions on how they can buy them and who is allowed to buy them.
If we want to make a significant difference in improving health and nutritional outcomes in our country, let's do it, by all means! But it's going to require a ton of heavy lifting- and *gasp* expenditure of taxable resources!- to get it done, which means it is a complete non-starter on the right hand side of the political aisle.
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and the beat goes on...
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Trump appoints Project 2025 author to be chairman of the FCC
Donald Trump on Sunday announced that he has nominated a Project 2025 author to be the chairman of the Federal Communications Commission. Trump, who earlier in the day sought an investigation into a political pollster, said in a statement that he has chosen Brendan Carr, the senior Republican...
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I believe that this is a main reason the IC shut down the Politics board.and the beat goes on...
Trump appoints Project 2025 author to be chairman of the FCC
Donald Trump on Sunday announced that he has nominated a Project 2025 author to be the chairman of the Federal Communications Commission. Trump, who earlier in the day sought an investigation into a political pollster, said in a statement that he has chosen Brendan Carr, the senior Republican...
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With the Laken Riley trial starting, illegal immigration is going to be a big topic. The fact that Laken's killer sneaked into the country, committed multiple crimes, wasn't deported and eventually committed murder, is a problem, IMO. People who go to the ports of entry, and follow the correct process, should be on a short leash. People who sneak in should be on an even shorter leash. He should have been returned to Venezuela before he had a chance to kill Laken.
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I’m not intimately familiar with all of the details of the case but from what I am reading he had been previously arrested by both federal and state officials in multiple jurisdictions. Cannot understand how he was still around to be able to commit the murder of Laken Riley.
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If I read the FCC section in P2025 correctly (unlikely), it seems that they want to change Section 230 to prevent social media platforms from censoring protected speech. That’s quite a can of worms and would seem to invite the potential return of political speech to IC.
