Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)

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TitanNC said:
I think about those early days of the pandemic and I always think back to the utter lack of leadership we were receiving from the Trump administration. If he had just provided servant/sacrificial leadership we have gotten through it so much better. One day, years from now, his legacy will be the increased deaths due to his lack of leadership. Even the good that happened - getting the vaccines out in incredible time - was messed up because he didn’t tamp down the anti-vax stuff spewed by his followers.
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Exactly, everything would have been better had he just been honest and a leader. He wasn't a leader then and isn't a leader now, but the cult blindly follows.
 
WaynetheDrain said:
Okay, setting aside for a second that all of that stuff, much of it insignificant and unimportant, bothers you and your ilk so much that you guys shake with rage whenever you see it, and also setting aside the fact that you treat the term "woke" as a catch-all for anything you don't like, much like people use the word "gluten" to describe anything unhealthy, let's hone in on your one attempt to actually define it.

According to you, Woke is "Trying to prove that you are sufficiently and appropriately 'correct' on al the latest social and cultural issues notwithstanding common sense." And according to you, America has roundly rejected Wokeism because Bill Maher says so.

Then explain the poll conducted last year by USA Today/IPSOS that offered Americans two definitions of Woke: One negative and one positive.

Guess which one they chose as what it means to be woke?


A majority of Americans in a new poll have a positive association with the term “woke,” understanding it to mean “to be informed, educated on, and aware of social injustices.”

The USA Today-Ipsos poll released on Wednesday found that 56 percent agreed with the more positive definition, while 39 percent had a negative association with the word and understood it to mean “to be overly politically correct and police others’ words.”

Can you explain why this doesn't coincide with you and Bill's world view? You're so convinced that this cost the Democrats the election, when the majority of people think being Woke is a good thing.
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Lol at the woke police. Polls didn’t serve your party very well in the last election. That is the best poll for how Americans feel about woke
 
Ramrouser said:
Sorry I missed this earlier. You and everyone here knows exactly what is meant by “woke” circa 2024. I don’t want to engage in some academic argument concerning the origins of the term by AAs in the 1920s. Today, the term reflects the never ending virtue signaling of people on the left who want to impress others on the left: Announcement of pronouns; land acknowledgements; terms such as birthing people; men can menstruate and give birth; yards signs proclaiming liberal slogans; pretending an in tact 6 foot two dude in a girls bathing suit is a woman; a guy dressed up as Audrey Hepburn selling Bud Light during a football game; Pelosi and Schumer kneeling in the Capital in African dress; and Latinx. Woke is trying to prove that you are sufficiently and appropriately “correct” on all the latest social and cultural issues notwithstanding common sense. Bill Maher says that this “stupid shit” causes people too vote for Trump even if they don’t particularly like him.

Even the Dems recognize that their failure to “talk like normal people” is hurting them with working class voters. AOC even removed her pronoun announcements from her social media accounts.
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😂 (please don’t have children)
 
WaynetheDrain said:
Okay, setting aside for a second that all of that stuff, much of it insignificant and unimportant, bothers you and your ilk so much that you guys shake with rage whenever you see it, and also setting aside the fact that you treat the term "woke" as a catch-all for anything you don't like, much like people use the word "gluten" to describe anything unhealthy, let's hone in on your one attempt to actually define it.

According to you, Woke is "Trying to prove that you are sufficiently and appropriately 'correct' on al the latest social and cultural issues notwithstanding common sense." And according to you, America has roundly rejected Wokeism because Bill Maher says so.

Then explain the poll conducted last year by USA Today/IPSOS that offered Americans two definitions of Woke: One negative and one positive.

Guess which one they chose as what it means to be woke?


A majority of Americans in a new poll have a positive association with the term “woke,” understanding it to mean “to be informed, educated on, and aware of social injustices.”

The USA Today-Ipsos poll released on Wednesday found that 56 percent agreed with the more positive definition, while 39 percent had a negative association with the word and understood it to mean “to be overly politically correct and police others’ words.”

Can you explain why this doesn't coincide with you and Bill's world view? You're so convinced that this cost the Democrats the election, when the majority of people think being Woke is a good thing.
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OMG, a left wing media poll, seems like this summer/fall media polling ( summer of Brat - Kamala rocks!) proved these polls are manipulated to prove the point the pollster wants to make. Legacy media, and their polls have lost all credibility.
 
Callatoroy said:
Lol at the woke police. Polls didn’t serve your party very well in the last election. That is the best poll for how Americans feel about woke
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If gas was 1.75 a gallon, and rent and grocery prices were 20% lower, do you think the outcome would have been the same?

If it was about woke, it would be exactly the same, right?
 
Callatoroy said:
Lol at the woke police. Polls didn’t serve your party very well in the last election. That is the best poll for how Americans feel about woke
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Woke police? Look, if you aren’t intelligent enough to contribute to the conversation, then don’t contribute to the conversation. It’s okay to sit a few of these out until you can gather your thoughts.
 
Ramrouser said:
OMG, a left wing media poll, seems like this summer/fall media polling ( summer of Brat - Kamala rocks!) proved these polls are manipulated to prove the point the pollster wants to make. Legacy media, and their polls have lost all credibility.
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USA Today is left wing media?

Lol, at this point anything other than X and 4Chan is considered left wing media to you people.
 
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