Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)
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gtyellowjacket
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Yep. That's what I think's going to happen. They really could go after a lot of Federal agencies and cut some fat. My guess is, you'll have some people really doing it because they want to improve the government and you'll have a lot of people wanting to cripple agencies that they don't like like the EPA or the IRS. I just don't see this going well.
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When McCroy came in he was hellbent on doing a similar thing in NC State govt They had mottos like "3 to 2" -ie cut one third of all jobs . I was at DHHS and Secreatry Vos brought in one her husbands top budget/efficiency guys to"Cut the fat and corruption in the bloated DHHS budget" He had access to anything , any meeting etc He stayed close to a year?
He literally found nothing to cut His whole bloated contract saved face by identifying something like 30 million of State money we could swap out for Federal money in some multibillion dollar program that is cost shared
My point
There really is not much "fat to cut" in Govt spending But yea it is a popular thing to rage about
He literally found nothing to cut His whole bloated contract saved face by identifying something like 30 million of State money we could swap out for Federal money in some multibillion dollar program that is cost shared
My point
There really is not much "fat to cut" in Govt spending But yea it is a popular thing to rage about
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Of course. Look at that tweet above. They identified . . . $12M in expenditures (most of which are probably not waste). Americans have trouble with large numbers, which is how they get away with it. (might not be just Americans). But it would take 10,000 of those cuts (which is actually 5 cuts combined) to get to any significant amount of spending.
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Moving the goalposts implies that was not their objective all along.
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Batt Boy
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So DOGE identified five examples of what they presumably consider the most egregiously wasteful spending by the federal government in 2024, mischaracterizing these findings to the American public to foment outrage and justify DOGE's mission, and the grand total of these expenditures is $12 million. At this rate, fElon and his incel lackeys will colonize Mars before they get to $2 trillion in federal budget cuts.
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DiehardHeelFan
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Carolina Fever
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I am a little pissed Obama set next to him and had a conversation with him in the first place.
DiehardHeelFan
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MendotoManteo
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Greenland is actually very strategic, despite Thule and Alaska. It gives us more access to the Arctic, which will become essential as we further destroy our planet in the decades ahead.
That being said, it's complete bullshit. Even assuming we get it. It's just a distraction from the fact he has not a fucking clue how to better the economy, which is already good. Just fuel for the Callatoroys and ramsousers of the world to think he's actually doing someting.
Slightly amusing sidenote, I have always thought the US and Canada should be joined. But that was mostly just a fantasy of mine that had no basis in fact. Very much doubt it happens, and it should not happen under any circumstance Trump is likely to establish.
Ultimately, Canada (especially) and Greenland will be ours. But that will be because things have gotten so bad, nothing matters anymore.
CRHeel94
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One of the points of NAFTA was to better integrate the US with Mexico and Canada. Obviously the MAGAs don't want tighter integration with the brown people, but Trump has whined a lot about how Canada benefits at their expense. So it's a little bit ironic and funny how they now want to get closer with the Canadians.
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This is fear mongering.
How the U.S. could in fact make Canada an American territory
How precisely Donald Trump could make good on his threat to annex Canada can be found in the U.S. Constitution. There is both potential and precedent in American history.theconversation.com
Every Canadian needs to pay attention to this bit of American history. In one treaty, the U.S. annexed the present-day states of California, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado, Oklahoma, Kansas and Wyoming. It subsequently illegally invaded Indigenous territory in the west.
Read more: White U.S. citizens once flooded into Indian Territory, prompting calls for mass deportations
Canada could be next — perhaps not immediately as the 51st state, but quite possibly as a U.S. territory that would deny Canadians any voting rights for Congress or the presidency, allow only some autonomy and make questions of citizenship ambiguous. The constitutional architecture exists in the U.S. to make it happen.
Impossible? Unthinkable? Many pundits dismiss Trump’s bellicose rhetoric as hot-headed bargaining. It’s just tough talk, they say. Some have argued his bluster is simply part of his favoured “art of the deal” negotiating tactics.
That’s the wrong reading. How Trump could make good on the threat can be found in the U.S. Constitution. There is both potential and precedent for the U.S. to acquire territory through cession or subjugation.
Invading Canada
The War Plan Red of 1930 was also drummed up by the U.S. Department of War on how to invade Canada if ever needed.
It included shocking details about kicking off the attack in Halifax with poison gas, quickly invading New Brunswick and then occupying Québec City and Montréal before claiming Niagara Falls.
Historically, America has made many Canadian leaders nervous. Queen Victoria felt that Ottawa, as a capital, would be sheltered from U.S. invasions. John A. Macdonald worried about Union forces attacks on Canada, as U.S. Confederacy spies and raiders were permitted to hole up in Montréal during the civil war.
In the 1911 election, when the Liberal party pushed for free trade with the U.S., they were shown the door by a wave of anti-American sentiment that backed Robert Borden’s Conservatives.
Treaties and congressional green lights
Hypothetical paranoia aside, the ability of the U.S. to acquire territories is ingrained in the U.S. Constitution. It is straightforward. First, start with Article II, Section 2 of the constitution:
Treaties are the tools the U.S. uses to take “nothing by conquest” after the Senate ratifies those treaties by a two-thirds majority.
In 1848, President Zachary Taylor proposed the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo to Congress to annex Mexican lands. Even though some wanted to take all of Mexico, Congress ratified the treaty.
In 1898, Congress passed House Joint Resolution 259. It ratified President William McKinley’s treaty of the annexation of Hawaii. Due to protest, petition and dissent, it took 60 years for Hawaii to become an official state in 1957.
The American origin story of a country born in revolution only applies to a small piece of the country. The rest of the place came to exist through annexation. The U.S. expanded to 50 states and 14 overseas territories through a mix of cession, occupation and purchase.
Carolina Fever
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If that ever happened I would support Canada over the US.
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Nah. Who had the BDE in the dynamic? It wasn’t the slumping, leaning in, whispering-in-the-ear guy with a failing combover. I think Obama knows shit is fucked, but he serves no one well by antagonizing. Obama, like millions of others, knows ttump is had by flattery and attention.
