Trump "Press Conference" Game Thread

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TarSpiel said:
You either misunderstand "equity" or you are a complete asshole.

We've got 2 kids at our college. One is from a good family, upper middle class neighborhood, took a bunch of AP's in high school, and will certainly transfer to a top tier 4 year university once they receive their Associates Degree from us. The other is a former foster youth who is 1/2 step away from being an alcoholic on the street, or else being sex trafficked, or both.

"Equality" means we treat them equally in terms of resources (equal money, time, personnel, counselling, bookstore vouchers, etc)

"Equity" means we give more to the foster kid to try to give him/her the same fighting chance as the kid from the stable family.

If you're opposed to "equity" in that sense, you're nothing but a heartless bastard. I'm actually truly hoping that you simply misunderstand the term.
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You give him too much credit
 
WSJ Editorial Board are pulling their hair out … BEFORE today’s impromptu news conference:


“Republicans are wondering if Donald Trump made a mistake in choosing J.D. Vance as his running mate. But the more urgent and consequential question for Republicans with 90 days left in the campaign is whether Mr. Trump is going to blow another presidential race he should win.

… Mr. Trump has his passionate followers who don’t want to hear a discouraging word. Yet the political reality is that he has a ceiling of support that is below 50% because so many Americans dislike him. And now that he is in the news every day campaigning, he is reminding those voters why they didn’t vote to re-elect him in 2020.

… The former President doesn’t seem to realize he’s now in a close race that requires discipline and a consistent message to prevail. And his struggles are hurting GOP candidates for the House and Senate.

… primary voters wanted to nominate Mr. Trump as a quasi-incumbent who they came to believe had his second term stolen by the Covid election.

This bet was paying off against Mr. Biden, but that race is over. Ms. Harris and her new running mate are still far to the left of the American people, if Republicans have the discipline to inform voters. This is still Mr. Trump’s election to lose but, as we learned in 2020, he’s more than capable of doing it.“

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Read like a prelude to calling on Trump to drop out but they don’t bother going there.
 
That Trump story about nearly being in a helicopter crash with Willie Brown, who used the chance to tell Trump how little he thought of Kamala Harris?



“… It wasn’t the famous former San Francisco mayor on the helicopter flight at all. It was Gov. Jerry Brown, the former governor of California, who bears little resemblance to Willie Brown.

There was also no emergency landing, and the helicopter’s passengers were never in any danger at all, according to Gov. Gavin Newsom, who was also on the flight.

Jerry Brown, who left office in January 2019, said through a spokesman, “There was no emergency landing and no discussion of Kamala Harris.”

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“I call complete B.S.,” Mr. Newsom said, laughing out loud.

Mr. Trump’s errant account, delivered during a news conference at his Mar-a-Lago club in Florida, came in response to a reporter who asked a leading question about Ms. Harris’s past relationship with Willie Brown, and whether Mr. Trump thought it might have had something to do with her career trajectory.

The two dated in 1994 and 1995, while she was a prosecutor in Alameda County, which includes Oakland, and he was the speaker of the California State Assembly, and he appointed her to two state boards. He was — and still is — married to Blanche Brown, but they have long lived separate lives.

“Well, I know Willie Brown very well,” Mr. Trump responded. “In fact, I went down in a helicopter with him.” …”
 
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He went on to tell a cinematic tale of a close call with death — and of politically advantageous gossip on death’s door:

“We thought maybe this was the end,” Mr. Trump said. “We were in a helicopter, going to a certain location together, and there was an emergency landing. This was not a pleasant landing.

“And Willie was — he was a little concerned,” Mr. Trump continued. “So I know him, but I know him pretty well. I mean, I haven’t seen him in years. But he told me terrible things about her. But this is what you’re telling me, anyway, I guess. But he had a big part in what happened with Kamala. But he — he, I don’t know, maybe he’s changed his tune. But he — he was not a fan of hers very much, at that point.”

Reached on his cellphone just after Mr. Trump’s news conference — at his regular lunch spot at Sam’s Grill in downtown San Francisco — Mr. Brown, 90, said the whole story was false. He had never ridden in a helicopter with Mr. Trump, he said. He had never nearly perished in any helicopter ride. And he remained an avid supporter of Ms. Harris’s.

Mr. Brown, who loves regaling anybody who will listen with stories and who penned a weekly column in The San Francisco Chronicle until 2021, added, laughing: “You know me well enough to know that if I almost went down in a helicopter with anybody, you would have heard about it!”

Ms. Harris ended their relationship nearly three decades ago, but Mr. Brown said he had always been a big fan and supporter of hers. “No hard feelings,” he said.

The helicopter ride that Mr. Trump took in 2018 with Gov. Jerry Brown, 86, and with Mr. Newsom, then the governor-elect of California, was to survey damage wrought by the deadly Camp Fire in the town of Paradise, in the Sierra Nevada foothills north of Sacramento.

Mr. Newsom’s recollection of the occasion was vivid.

“I was on a helicopter with Jerry Brown and Trump, and it didn’t go down,” Mr. Newsom said, 56, in an interview. He said that Mr. Trump had, however, repeatedly brought up the possibility of crashing.

The subject of Ms. Harris, with whom Mr. Newsom had enjoyed a friendly rivalry, did not come up on the helicopter, he added. “We talked about everyone else, but not Kamala,” he said with a laugh.

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Mr. Trump’s visit to the burned forest with then-Governor Brown and Mr. Newsom did generate headlines, but not because of anything that occurred on their helicopter ride. Rather, it was because, during a news conference after landing at the scene, Mr. Trump, 78, attributed the wildfire to too many fallen, dead tree branches and said the answer to solving California’s wildfire crisis was to rake the forest floors.

“It was back when we were making raking the forest great again,” Mr. Newsom said.“
 
CFordUNC said:
The best part about the presser today, IMO, was that he was begging Joe Biden to get back into the race. He's scared fuckshitless of Kamala Harris. It's the most amusing thing in the entire world to watch his campaign and the whole MAGA movement completely collapse in real-time before our very eyes. Literally a month ago he was cruising to an epic asskicking blowout victory, and now he's headed for an epic asskicking blowout defeat. My how the turntables!
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Yeah, of all the bizarre things about his press conference debacle today, one of the oddest is the sincere and almost desperate desire of not only Trump, but his entire campaign staff, to get Biden back into the race. And, mind you, this is the same candidate who was ridiculing Biden as brain dead after the debate and insisting that he wasn't fit to run the country or to be reelected. So Biden does what they said they wanted - he leaves the race - and now they're endlessly bitc**** about "unconstitutional" (lol) it is for Biden to have the effrontery to drop out of the race and for him to be replaced with a more formidable candidate that they clearly had done no preparations to campaign against. I've never heard of a candidate actually wax nostalgic about an opponent and keep asking him to get back into the race because that candidate fears that he can't beat the new opponent. "Joe, I knew I would whip you, why won't you retake the Democratic nomination from Kamala so I can still win this thing? It's just unfair that I've got to run against somebody else now!" Weird.
 
The ignore button works great. I suggest you use it on HeelYeah2012.
Read enough of his BS equivocating on the old ZZLP… no need to allow his antics to bleed all over this board as well. I know it’s been discussed about having conservatives here for some discussions, but I think we now know anyone who is still planning on voting for trump (A third time!) is not someone worth your time in trying to debate. Placating him and keeping his antics going on threads gets nowhere and doesn’t move the needle forward, only back. Who needs that?

Back on topic, I only watched snippets of the so-called press conference and it was as expected. The same old same old with fact-checkable lies every other sentence and a flat out evasion of practically every question asked. Totally unwatchable… heck even our newly ignored friend HY didn’t even watch it.
 
theel4life said:
He looks terrified.
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Honestly, from watching the entire thing last night, I wondered if he was on some weird medication because he alternately seemed animated/agitated or like he was on the edge of mumbling himself to sleep. But a lot of the weird faces seemed about him straining to hear the reporters. He asked people to speak up nearly every question, leaned toward them and then had to crane his neck on their direction. He gave hand signals to speak up, said it was hard to hear because the room is so big and beautiful with high ceilings and did everything but cup a hand to an ear. At the end, when he again asked a reporter to speak up, exasperated reporters repeated the question in unison.

My paternal grandfather was hard of hearing (apparently from the time he served in tanks in WWII) and the way Trump was acting and especially the way reporters reacted at the end reminded me of him. People would start to get frustrated with demands to speak up and jump from speaking just above inside voice to outside ballpark yelling levels.

Trump also complained a great deal at the NABJ about not being able to hear reporters maybe 10 feet from him. In both cases, it could be technical issues but it is starting to look like a pretty normal aging issue he is refusing to acknowledge.
 
The other issue could have been the sloppy/rushed set-up of the space. His lectern was flimsy and just had a MAL logo on it, like something they use for a business group renting the space for a retreat event. It wobbled terribly when he leaned on it.

There were four US flags behind him but no Trump/Vance campaign signs. And no one had provided a microphone for the assembled reporters — you couldn’t really make out what anyone was asking on the (apparently unedited) PBS feed I watched on YouTube. Maybe you could hear the rest of the room better on other feeds, I didn’t check; the PBS feed was focused on the lectern and actually opened with about 10 minutes of dead time before he arrived. I picked it b/c it was longer than the others and I thought might have more detail, but just had to fast forward to get to the actual start.

Anyway, it looked like the campaign staff either wasn’t involved or had the day off and someone told some resort staff to set up the space in a rush.
 
LosPollosHermanos said:
Look man, nobody cares if you vote for Romney, Bush, McCain, etc. None of those guys were ever deal breakers. Families and friendships weren't wrecked over whether someone voted for McCain vs. Obama. But when you vote for a man who tried to overthrow the government with a coup, and filed 70 failed lawsuits to overturn a free and fair election, it's simply not justifiable by your lame excuse that you support Republican policies more on a national level. Not to mention he's a felon and a rapist. Never in the history of this country have two major groups from the same party as a president aligned to prevent him from being re-elected. The Lincoln Project and Republicans for Harris should tell you all you need to know. And if you just can't bear to vote D on a national level, don't vote. It's still a bad option because everyone should actively try to prevent this man from having power again, but you can't vote for this man and call yourself an American. So I could give a rat's ass if we have everything in common and agree on everything non-political. I will never call anyone who votes for this man my friend.
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I'm the opposite. I will never give Donald Trump any power over my personal friendships.
 
It's odd. I just scrolled up and down the NY Times site and can't seem to find any articles about the senile breakdown we saw yesterday. No editorials encouraging Trump to drop out. No articles questioning his age. No trusted insiders talking about hard conversations.

That damned liberal media hard at work again
 
In fact only article about it centers on Trump and... Biden.

Also an article on Harris hasn't done an interview.
 
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