Trump Rallies & Interviews Catch-All | Trump - “just stop talking about that”

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Gift Link: Trump Is Speaking Like Hitler, Stalin, and Mussolini

“… Rhetoric has a history. The words democracy and tyranny were debated in ancient Greece; the phrase separation of powers became important in the 17th and 18th centuries. The word vermin,as a political term, dates from the 1930s and ’40s, when both fascists and communists liked to describe their political enemies as vermin, parasites, and blood infections, as well as insects, weeds, dirt, and animals. The term has been revived and reanimated, in an American presidential campaign, with Donald Trump’s description of his opponents as “radical-left thugs” who “live like vermin.”

… In each of these very different societies, the purpose of this kind of rhetoric was the same. If you connect your opponents with disease, illness, and poisoned blood, if you dehumanize them as insects or animals, if you speak of squashing them or cleansing them as if they were pests or bacteria, then you can much more easily arrest them, deprive them of rights, exclude them, or even kill them. If they are parasites, they aren’t human. If they are vermin, they don’t get to enjoy freedom of speech, or freedoms of any kind. And if you squash them, you won’t be held accountable.

… Trump blurs the distinction between illegal immigrants and legal immigrants—the latter including his wife, his late ex-wife, the in-laws of his running mate, and many others.

He has said of immigrants, “They’re poisoning the blood of our country” and “They’re destroying the blood of our country.”

He has claimed that many have “bad genes.” He has also been more explicit: “They’re not humans; they’re animals”; they are “cold-blooded killers.”

He refers more broadly to his opponents—American citizens, some of whom are elected officials—as “the enemy from within … sick people, radical-left lunatics.” Not only do they have no rights; they should be “handled by,” he has said, “if necessary, National Guard, or if really necessary, by the military.”

… These phrases have not been put on posters and banners at random in the final weeks of an American election season. With less than three weeks left to go, most candidates would be fighting for the middle ground, for the swing voters. Trump is doing the exact opposite.

Why? There can be only one answer: because he and his campaign team believe that by using the tactics of the 1930s, they can win.

The deliberate dehumanization of whole groups of people; the references to police, to violence, to the “bloodbath” that Trump has said will unfold if he doesn’t win; the cultivation of hatred not only against immigrants but also against political opponents—none of this has been used successfully in modern American politics.

But neither has this rhetoric been tried in modern American politics. Several generations of American politicians have assumed that American voters, most of whom learned to pledge allegiance to the flag in school, grew up with the rule of law, and have never experienced occupation or invasion, would be resistant to this kind of language and imagery. Trump is gambling—knowingly and cynically—that we are not.“
 
nycfan said:


Gift Link: Trump Is Speaking Like Hitler, Stalin, and Mussolini

“… Rhetoric has a history. The words democracy and tyranny were debated in ancient Greece; the phrase separation of powers became important in the 17th and 18th centuries. The word vermin,as a political term, dates from the 1930s and ’40s, when both fascists and communists liked to describe their political enemies as vermin, parasites, and blood infections, as well as insects, weeds, dirt, and animals. The term has been revived and reanimated, in an American presidential campaign, with Donald Trump’s description of his opponents as “radical-left thugs” who “live like vermin.”

… In each of these very different societies, the purpose of this kind of rhetoric was the same. If you connect your opponents with disease, illness, and poisoned blood, if you dehumanize them as insects or animals, if you speak of squashing them or cleansing them as if they were pests or bacteria, then you can much more easily arrest them, deprive them of rights, exclude them, or even kill them. If they are parasites, they aren’t human. If they are vermin, they don’t get to enjoy freedom of speech, or freedoms of any kind. And if you squash them, you won’t be held accountable.

… Trump blurs the distinction between illegal immigrants and legal immigrants—the latter including his wife, his late ex-wife, the in-laws of his running mate, and many others.

He has said of immigrants, “They’re poisoning the blood of our country” and “They’re destroying the blood of our country.”

He has claimed that many have “bad genes.” He has also been more explicit: “They’re not humans; they’re animals”; they are “cold-blooded killers.”

He refers more broadly to his opponents—American citizens, some of whom are elected officials—as “the enemy from within … sick people, radical-left lunatics.” Not only do they have no rights; they should be “handled by,” he has said, “if necessary, National Guard, or if really necessary, by the military.”

… These phrases have not been put on posters and banners at random in the final weeks of an American election season. With less than three weeks left to go, most candidates would be fighting for the middle ground, for the swing voters. Trump is doing the exact opposite.

Why? There can be only one answer: because he and his campaign team believe that by using the tactics of the 1930s, they can win.

The deliberate dehumanization of whole groups of people; the references to police, to violence, to the “bloodbath” that Trump has said will unfold if he doesn’t win; the cultivation of hatred not only against immigrants but also against political opponents—none of this has been used successfully in modern American politics.

But neither has this rhetoric been tried in modern American politics. Several generations of American politicians have assumed that American voters, most of whom learned to pledge allegiance to the flag in school, grew up with the rule of law, and have never experienced occupation or invasion, would be resistant to this kind of language and imagery. Trump is gambling—knowingly and cynically—that we are not.“
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But a couple of folks on this very board think he's not a threat. Probably because they don't care if it actually happens.
 




That IS Trump reaching out to Haley and I fully expect her to do the Gollum handshake to show fealty to Trump just like Musk did.
 
UNCRx85 said:
yeah, wtf is that for?
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I think that could be how absurdly long his suit jacket is.

EDIT — no it is not his jacket tail, different color and doesn’t tug when he moves. So either an absorbent pad or a heated pad — there seems to be an air running to it on the right side of the screen (to Trump’s left).
 


Except it is not true as described



“… He didn't offer his own plane but charged Mandela $130,000 to borrow one of his unused jets.“

And Trump didn’t really control events at the airline at that time.

 
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“Lincoln was probably a great president although I’ve always said why wasn’t that settled? You now I’m a guy that, it does t make sense, we had a civil war [announcer - well half the country left mumble] Yeah, yeah, you’d almost say like why wasn’t that …”



Chilly most, Don! [Bob Roberts]
 
nycfan said:
I think that could be how absurdly long his suit jacket is.

EDIT — no it is not his jacket tail, different color and doesn’t tug when he moves. So either an absorbent pad or a heated pad — there seems to be an air running to it on the right side of the screen (to Trump’s left).
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Some kind of support to keep his fat ass from sinking into to couch?
 
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