Trump Rallies & Interviews Catch-All | Trump - “just stop talking about that”

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Calheel said:
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1. You should delete this before it's used against you.
2. It was never a defensible political position. Hitler and the Nazis were never, ever shy about who they were. If you want to say this about fascism more generally, maybe you'd be closer to the mark. I would still disagree, but maybe you're in the realm of plausibility. But not about the Nazis. There was never anything defensible about them.
 
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Calheel said:
In fairness, the Nazis of the 1930s didn’t have the same rep of the Nazis of today. It was more aligned with a strain of American political thought at the time.

Supporting Nazis today, in 2024, is a different thing. [replaced with edited version of OP]
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The Nazi rally in MSG took place in February 1939. Years after the Reichstag Fire, the Night of the Long Knives, and Hitler making himself dictator. Three months after Kristallnacht. Hard to make excuses for anyone supporting the Nazis in February 1939 (which, to be clear, were a small minority of Americans).
 
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rodoheel said:
The Nazi rally in MSG took place in February 1939. Years after the Reichstag Fire, the Night of the Long Knives, and Hitler making himself dictator. Three months after Kristallnacht. Hard to make excuses for anyone supporting the Nazis in February 1939 (which, to be clear, were a small minority of Americans).
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American Experience did a recent episode on the German American Bund (the group that organized the MSG Nazi rally) and Nazism in America. Highly recommend for those unfamiliar with it.

 
rodoheel said:
The Nazi rally in MSG took place in February 1939. Years after the Reichstag Fire, the Night of the Long Knives, and Hitler making himself dictator. Three months after Kristallnacht. Hard to make excuses for anyone supporting the Nazis in February 1939 (which, to be clear, were a small minority of Americans).
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Yes, but there was A LOT of anti-semitism in America in the 1930s.

There was also a lot of anti-communism in the 1930s America, and the Nazis we’re also virulently anti-communist.

And most importantly, there had been no Nazi holocaust in the 1930s.

Obviously, American Nazism was a niche political movement in the 1930s, but it was not the outcast belief system then as it was after WWII.

My point still stands — even if that speaks poorly of 1930s America.
 
superrific said:
1. You should delete this before it's used against you.
2. It was never a defensible political position. Hitler and the Nazis were never, ever shy about who they were. If you want to say this about fascism more generally, maybe you'd be closer to the mark. I would still disagree, but maybe you're in the realm of plausibility. But not about the Nazis. There was never anything defensible about them.
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I’ll edit my word choice. As defensible is the wrong word. But my main point still stands that supporting Nazism today is different than supporting Nazisim in the 1930s.
 
Calheel said:
I’ll edit my word choice. As defensible is the wrong word. But my main point still stands that supporting Nazism today is different than supporting Nazisim in the 1930s.
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If that’s the point you were making then I agree as well. The historians in the documentary I posted above say the same.

These people don’t get a pass for their ideology today. The issue is, a lot more people back then held the ideology. That’s what allowed stuff like the MSG rally to happen in the first place.
 
And then another weirdo ending to a Trump event (in response to an audience softball about what voters should know before going to vote):



“… I think my father’s in heaven, I know my mother’s in heaven …”
 
rodoheel said:
I'm not sure why you think that supporting the troops is contrary to an affinity for authoritarianism; in fact, the two are very much compatible.
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I'd go one step further and say that "supporting the troops" has long been a primary trope for authoritarianism.
 
CallMeTyler said:
Enemies of the state. Imagine earnestly arguing that "generals that followed Hitler" is a good thing?
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To me the real story isn’t what the generals did or did not do. The real story is why Trump wants generals like them - because they took a personal oath to Hitler. Trump wants absolute loyalty. That’s the terrifying part.

Of course some tried to kill Hitler but that is another point.
 
Any thoughts on t he report that Trump is considering Cannon for attorney general?

If this is discussed somewhere then apologies. I couldn’t find it.
 
ChapelHillSooner said:
Any thoughts on t he report that Trump is considering Cannon for attorney general?

If this is discussed somewhere then apologies. I couldn’t find it.
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1. We have no idea if that's actually true.
2. Cannon being AG is the least of our problems if he's elected. In fact, she's better than some of the other names being floated.
 
ChapelHillSooner said:
Any thoughts on t he report that Trump is considering Cannon for attorney general?

If this is discussed somewhere then apologies. I couldn’t find it.
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It was discussed on the Trump civil case thread. It will be a good thing when Trump is out of the political sphere. If nothing else, it will reduce the number of threads to track on this site.

Cannon would be dumb to take that job. She's likely be canned in two years and then she'd have limited job opportunities after that. She should angle for an appointment to the 11th Circuit instead.
 
Calheel said:
It was discussed on the Trump civil case thread. It will be a good thing when Trump is out of the political sphere. If nothing else, it will reduce the number of threads to track on this site.

Cannon would be dumb to take that job. She's likely be canned in two years and then she'd have limited job opportunities after that. She should angle for an appointment to the 11th Circuit instead.
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I was thinking of something a little more permanent than out of the political sphere.
 
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