Trump to take over D.C. Law Enforcement

nycfan said:

FBI dispatching agents to D.C. streets as Trump weighs calling National Guard​

The Trump administration has temporarily assigned FBI agents to work overnight shifts to combat carjackings and other crimes.


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“… The deployment of FBI agents to deal with local crime puts agents from the bureau’s counterintelligence, public corruption and other divisions with minimal training in traffic stops out on the streets in potentially dangerous encounters, diverting them from their typical jobs at the bureau.

And it comes as Trump is publicly portraying the city as rampant with violent crime— even as the mayor refutes that characterization, pointing to police data showing a drop in violent crime.…”

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nycfan said:
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FLASHBACK 2020:

“When President Donald Trump tweeted "LIBERATE MINNESOTA!" on Friday morning, some of his most fervent supporters in far-right communities — including those who have agitated for violent insurrection — heard a call to arms.

The tweet was one of three sent from the president's account, along with "LIBERATE MICHIGAN!" and "LIBERATE VIRGINIA, and save your great 2nd Amendment. It is under siege!"…”

www.nbcnews.com

In Trump's 'LIBERATE' tweets, extremists see a call to arms

Trump's tweets pushed many online extremist communities to speculate whether the president was advocating for armed conflict, an event they’ve termed “the boogaloo."
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com

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Not to detract from whatever will happen in DC today, but I've never understood why Trump makes obviously false absolutist statements about things that would be great for him even if he told the truth. Zero illegals in the last three months? Even his own CBP notes that there were about 35,000 border encounters in the last three reporting periods --

Southwest Land Border Encounters

Securing America's Borders
www.cbp.gov

Now, that number, assuming it is reliable, which it almost certainly is not, is WAY down from historical norms. It's a great number for what Trump is trying to do. And there's no possible scenario in which illegal crossings would actually be zero over a three month period. But Trump can't accept the great and (maybe) honest. He has to lie to make it sound impossibly great.

I know this is just the way of a megalomaniacal narcissist, but it makes Trump and anyone who supports him look like colossal idiots.
 
My guess, there will be a big show/photo op of National Guard "defending" some of the safest and most touristy places in DC, and little to no presence in neighborhoods like Deanwood, Brentwood, Anacostia, etc. Trump is all about appearances, and what screams "defending America" louder than National Guard in front of the Washington Monument, Lincoln Memorial, Capitol, etc. Those locations, of course, are not where the serious crime is.
 
StrangePackage said:
Weren't we assured by a very stupid person that this was not going to happen?
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The list of things we were assured would not happen but have already happened is getting damn long.

Reversing Roe? Check.

Military involved civilian law enforcement? Check.

Family separations (again)? Check.

Tax increases disproportionately impacting the poor and middle class? Check.

Politicization and weaponization of the Justice Department? Check, check, check.

This list could go on for a LONG time, but I no longer pay attention to people who promise something won't happen. I'm sure not ALL bad things will happen, but any given one of them has a frighteningly high probability under this incompetent administration.
 
Everything Trump does it stupid. Having said that, I wish that the streets in DC would be cleaned up. I take the bus 4x a month. To a location back and forth twice a month. I take it around 8 in the mornings from the Dupont Circle area to near the White House ( yeah I know I could walk it but it's just to sticky this time of year) and back around 6pm. It's a zoo. Many mentally ill patients and if you are white, you are targeted. This board will attack that, but it's the truth. If you ignore them, 99% of the time they just yell obscenities. But you have to be on guard.
 
Batt Boy said:
Everything Trump does it stupid. Having said that, I wish that the streets in DC would be cleaned up. I take the bus 4x a month. To a location back and forth twice a month. I take it around 8 in the mornings from the Dupont Circle area to near the White House ( yeah I know I could walk it but it's just to sticky this time of year) and back around 6pm. It's a zoo. Many mentally ill patients and if you are white, you are targeted. This board will attack that, but it's the truth. If you ignore them, 99% of the time they just yell obscenities. But you have to be on guard.
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I too wish the United States would prioritize services for the indigent and ill in this country.

But they aren't gonna do that. So they aren't really fixing anything.
 
Batt Boy said:
Everything Trump does it stupid. Having said that, I wish that the streets in DC would be cleaned up. I take the bus 4x a month. To a location back and forth twice a month. I take it around 8 in the mornings from the Dupont Circle area to near the White House ( yeah I know I could walk it but it's just to sticky this time of year) and back around 6pm. It's a zoo. Many mentally ill patients and if you are white, you are targeted. This board will attack that, but it's the truth. If you ignore them, 99% of the time they just yell obscenities. But you have to be on guard.
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Your experience is not a definitive one - my wife and I have never felt unsafe in our forty years of living in and around DC. I've never been targeted for being white. While there is a homeless issue in DC, my anecdotal experience is that it is no worse or emergent than many other cities in the US.
 
DC has had tons of homeless people for at least 50 years and probably longer. Its cityscape (large, abundant parks and huge buildings with overhangs that are abandoned at night), its climate, and its relatively high level of social services makes it an attractive place for homeless people. I'm there often and the homelessness situation is no different or worse now than it was 25 years ago. The city is actually much better now because crime is way down. The crack epidemic in the '80s and '90s wreaked havoc on DC's eastern and southeastern neighborhoods.

I love visiting DC and have never felt unsafe. I also watch myself late at night, as I would in any large city. I've never had a single issue.

There is no reason whatsoever for Trump to be doing anything different about DC at this moment in time. It's 100% performative, and it just makes me wonder yet again how bad the information must be in those Epstein files.
 
Mayor Bowser is not totally against Trump's efforts. While she questions whether the use of the National Guard is the most efficient use of the Guard, she acknowledges it is "always the President's prerogative to use federal law enforcement or the National Guard."

"The President is very aware of our efforts [in fighting crime]." Browser said. "He established a task force, which our police department and agencies support with information and anything else they ask us for..." "It is clear that the President is surging federal law enforcement and he may talk about even larger numbers or longer periods of time he's interested in being in neighborhoods and fighting crime in neighborhoods, and to the extent that officers know our laws."

"That officers work in community and work with prosecutors to build good cases and establish a presence and work with local officials who are you know, the expert is in policing and making arrests. That's what we're waiting to see."

Mayor may not be 100% on board with Trump but she's not acting as if this is the end of our Constitution like many here are asserting.
 
Ramrouser said:
Mayor Bowser is not totally against Trump's efforts. While she questions whether the use of the National Guard is the most efficient use of the Guard, she acknowledges it is "always the President's prerogative to use federal law enforcement or the National Guard."

"The President is very aware of our efforts [in fighting crime]." Browser said. "He established a task force, which our police department and agencies support with information and anything else they ask us for..." "It is clear that the President is surging federal law enforcement and he may talk about even larger numbers or longer periods of time he's interested in being in neighborhoods and fighting crime in neighborhoods, and to the extent that officers know our laws."

"That officers work in community and work with prosecutors to build good cases and establish a presence and work with local officials who are you know, the expert is in policing and making arrests. That's what we're waiting to see."

Mayor may not be 100% on board with Trump but she's not acting as if this is the end of our Constitution like many here are asserting.
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Look up duress.
 
Ramrouser said:
Mayor Bowser is not totally against Trump's efforts. While she questions whether the use of the National Guard is the most efficient use of the Guard, she acknowledges it is "always the President's prerogative to use federal law enforcement or the National Guard."

"The President is very aware of our efforts [in fighting crime]." Browser said. "He established a task force, which our police department and agencies support with information and anything else they ask us for..." "It is clear that the President is surging federal law enforcement and he may talk about even larger numbers or longer periods of time he's interested in being in neighborhoods and fighting crime in neighborhoods, and to the extent that officers know our laws."

"That officers work in community and work with prosecutors to build good cases and establish a presence and work with local officials who are you know, the expert is in policing and making arrests. That's what we're waiting to see."

Mayor may not be 100% on board with Trump but she's not acting as if this is the end of our Constitution like many here are asserting.
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There are two aspects of what Trump appears to be doing.

#1 is fighting crime, which I guarantee you every single person here supports, as long as it's done nonviolently and with respect for everyone's constitutional rights. Not sure there's any reason for it since violent crime in DC is at a 30-year low, but whatever. If people are committing crimes, they should be arrested for it.

#2 is "fighting" the homeless, which apparently means removing them to some encampment far from DC. This is RIFE with potential problems, legally, ethically, practically, economically, etc. And, while I know you're tired of hearing this, it's straight out of the Nazi playbook.

I'm not concerned about #1 as long as the constitution is respected. I'm DEEPLY concerned about #2.
 
Batt Boy said:
Everything Trump does it stupid. Having said that, I wish that the streets in DC would be cleaned up. I take the bus 4x a month. To a location back and forth twice a month. I take it around 8 in the mornings from the Dupont Circle area to near the White House ( yeah I know I could walk it but it's just to sticky this time of year) and back around 6pm. It's a zoo. Many mentally ill patients and if you are white, you are targeted. This board will attack that, but it's the truth. If you ignore them, 99% of the time they just yell obscenities. But you have to be on guard.
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Are you describing what happens on the bus? I lived in Dupont Circle for a year -- admittedly a long time ago -- and never once saw anything like this. I didn't take the bus, though, so I can't speak to what happens there.

Part of the problem might be taking the bus. Buses are . . . well, sketchy in every big city I've lived in.
 
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