Trump: "We will take over Gaza and move all Palestinians out"

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Enigma94 said:
You’re the one advocating for families to be kicked off of the land they have lived on for generations not me.
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Again, factually wrong. I haven't advocated for that at all. Your brainwashed mind due to way to long in the echo chamber has conditioned you to think any comment not condemning any idea or statement from trump is the same as advocacy. Simply not true
 
Callatoroy said:
Wrong. Your hatred blinds your ability to comprehend. I'm not saying he's right. Not saying he is wrong. Not enough to go on at this point and I have said it is pretty wild and likely wouldn't be supported by palestinians. He farts and you and the rest of the overly reactionary and emotional libs freak out without applying an ounce of forethought or rational thought. Ethnic cleansing? lol.
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I very rarely react at all to Trump. But what he suggested is absolutely definitional ethnic cleansing. It's no different than what the US Government did to Native Americans. The fact that you find need to defend it as something other than that is entirely indicative of your abandonment of any sense of morality, ethics, or good faith discussion.

Removing 2 million people of a single ethnicity from their homes and shipping them off to an unknown destination when suggested by the most powerful person in the world is absolutley a suggestion of ethic cleansing.
 
Callatoroy said:
Again, factually wrong. I haven't advocated for that at all. Your brainwashed mind due to way to long in the echo chamber has conditioned you to think any comment not condemning any idea or statement from trump is the same as advocacy. Simply not true
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Callatoroy said:
That's not at all what I said. Nor what I have publicly stated previously.
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Then what are you saying?
 


“…“The U.S. will take over the Gaza Strip and we’ll do a job with it, too. We’ll own it,” Trump said.

“I do see a long-term ownership position, and I see it bringing great stability to that part of the Middle East, and maybe the entire Middle East.”

Trump suggested that U.S. troops would be used, if needed, to implement his vision for Gaza.

He presented this idea, one never before suggested by a U.S. president or Middle East peace negotiator, as a way to end generations of conflict between Israel and the Palestinians and, also, as a bonus, an opportunity to create sweet real-estate development opportunities.

The idea was breathtaking in its audacity, and it would be fair to say that its implementation would run into myriad obstacles at home and abroad, except that the overwhelming likelihood is that the U.S. would never come near implementing this notion.

Trump’s proposal to displace 2.2 million Palestinian residents from their homes, which he expanded on today, has already angered the Arab world.

A direct American intervention in Gaza would radically expand the U.S. footprint in the Middle East, giving it possession of a territory devastated by 15 months of fighting between Hamas and the Israel Defense Forces, ignited by the Hamas attack on Israel on October 7, 2023. And it could further destabilize a region never known for its stability.

… Trump’s Gaza plan, were it to be carried out, would appear to be a remarkable win for the far-right members in Netanyahu’s governing coalition, who have longed for permanent Israeli expansion into both Gaza and the West Bank.

Netanyahu—a longtime Trump ally, and the first foreign leader to visit the White House in the president’s second term—suggested that he was open to the idea, noting that Trump “sees a different future for that piece of land.”

He added: “It’s worth paying attention to this. We’re talking about it. It’s something that could change history.”

… One White House official told me that Trump’s comments were not a spur-of-the-moment suggestion but reflective of a newfound, postelection confidence that he could put together the ultimate deal and change decades of history. …”
 
RaiGuy said:
Natural gas and also because he sent Kushner there months ago to plan luxury resorts on the beach.
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Trump doesn’t give a fuck about the Palestinians. He’s a money grubbing POS who sees them as an obstacle to making himself richer. The sooner they are removed from Gaza, the better he will like it. I’d love for him to have to live one week as a Palestinian in Gaza. Maybe the Israelis would drop an American bomb on his ass.
 
wmheel1287 said:
I very rarely react at all to Trump. But what he suggested is absolutely definitional ethnic cleansing. It's no different than what the US Government did to Native Americans. The fact that you find need to defend it as something other than that is entirely indicative of your abandonment of any sense of morality, ethics, or good faith discussion.

Removing 2 million people of a single ethnicity from their homes and shipping them off to an unknown destination when suggested by the most powerful person in the world is absolutley a suggestion of ethic cleansing.
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Ethnic cleansing is associated with force, annihilation / extermination, and done without cooperation. Where has trump suggested that palestinians be forced out or exterminated? He threw out a possibility where they could live peacefully and not have to go back through the same all over again because they are to much of a pussy to actually stand up to hamas and chart their own path to peace. Did you see the radicalization of the palestinians during the hostage swap? So, if trump's idea is so bad, (and I'm not saying its great), what do you think should happen. Here is your chance to actually pose a thoughtful response and not emotionally driven drivel out of TDS.
 
Patb78 said:
Trump doesn’t give a fuck about the Palestinians. He’s a money grubbing POS who sees them as an obstacle to making himself richer. The sooner they are removed from Gaza, the better he will like it. I’d love for him to have to live one week as a Palestinian in Gaza. Maybe the Israelis would drop an American bomb on his ass.
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I disagree. I think trump does care about palestinians suffering. I also think he sees developmental opportunities. Both can be true.
 
Callatoroy said:
Ethnic cleansing is associated with force, annihilation / extermination, and done without cooperation. Where has trump suggested that palestinians be forced out or exterminated? He threw out a possibility where they could live peacefully and not have to go back through the same all over again because they are to much of a pussy to actually stand up to hamas and chart their own path to peace. Did you see the radicalization of the palestinians during the hostage swap? So, if trump's idea is so bad, (and I'm not saying its great), what do you think should happen. Here is your chance to actually pose a thoughtful response and not emotionally driven drivel out of TDS.
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What should be done is we should stay the fuck out of matters in the Middle East and we should cut all ties...diplomatic, aid, and military...with Israel. The Israeli government has routinely shown itself to be a group of thugs with no respect for basic human rights.
 
wmheel1287 said:
What should be done is we should stay the fuck out of matters in the Middle East and we should cut all ties...diplomatic, aid, and military...with Israel. The Israeli government has routinely shown itself to be a group of thugs with no respect for basic human rights.
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That's about as likely to happen as relocating 1.8 million people to egypt and jordan. And, not at all in our national interest. Try something realistic.
 
Callatoroy said:
I disagree. I think trump does care about palestinians suffering. I also think he sees developmental opportunities. Both can be true.
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No they can’t. Gaza is their home. What right does he have to throw them out? It’s not his fucking land. It’s just a repeat of what we did to our Native Americans. They are a weak helpless people and this greedy SOB wants to throw them out. How is that caring about the Palestinians?
 
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