Trump: "We will take over Gaza and move all Palestinians out"

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“…“The U.S. will take over the Gaza Strip and we’ll do a job with it, too. We’ll own it,” Trump said.

“I do see a long-term ownership position, and I see it bringing great stability to that part of the Middle East, and maybe the entire Middle East.”

Trump suggested that U.S. troops would be used, if needed, to implement his vision for Gaza.

He presented this idea, one never before suggested by a U.S. president or Middle East peace negotiator, as a way to end generations of conflict between Israel and the Palestinians and, also, as a bonus, an opportunity to create sweet real-estate development opportunities.

The idea was breathtaking in its audacity, and it would be fair to say that its implementation would run into myriad obstacles at home and abroad, except that the overwhelming likelihood is that the U.S. would never come near implementing this notion.

Trump’s proposal to displace 2.2 million Palestinian residents from their homes, which he expanded on today, has already angered the Arab world.

A direct American intervention in Gaza would radically expand the U.S. footprint in the Middle East, giving it possession of a territory devastated by 15 months of fighting between Hamas and the Israel Defense Forces, ignited by the Hamas attack on Israel on October 7, 2023. And it could further destabilize a region never known for its stability.

… Trump’s Gaza plan, were it to be carried out, would appear to be a remarkable win for the far-right members in Netanyahu’s governing coalition, who have longed for permanent Israeli expansion into both Gaza and the West Bank.

Netanyahu—a longtime Trump ally, and the first foreign leader to visit the White House in the president’s second term—suggested that he was open to the idea, noting that Trump “sees a different future for that piece of land.”

He added: “It’s worth paying attention to this. We’re talking about it. It’s something that could change history.”

… One White House official told me that Trump’s comments were not a spur-of-the-moment suggestion but reflective of a newfound, postelection confidence that he could put together the ultimate deal and change decades of history. …”
 
Natural gas and also because he sent Kushner there months ago to plan luxury resorts on the beach.
Trump doesn’t give a fuck about the Palestinians. He’s a money grubbing POS who sees them as an obstacle to making himself richer. The sooner they are removed from Gaza, the better he will like it. I’d love for him to have to live one week as a Palestinian in Gaza. Maybe the Israelis would drop an American bomb on his ass.
 
I very rarely react at all to Trump. But what he suggested is absolutely definitional ethnic cleansing. It's no different than what the US Government did to Native Americans. The fact that you find need to defend it as something other than that is entirely indicative of your abandonment of any sense of morality, ethics, or good faith discussion.

Removing 2 million people of a single ethnicity from their homes and shipping them off to an unknown destination when suggested by the most powerful person in the world is absolutley a suggestion of ethic cleansing.
Ethnic cleansing is associated with force, annihilation / extermination, and done without cooperation. Where has trump suggested that palestinians be forced out or exterminated? He threw out a possibility where they could live peacefully and not have to go back through the same all over again because they are to much of a pussy to actually stand up to hamas and chart their own path to peace. Did you see the radicalization of the palestinians during the hostage swap? So, if trump's idea is so bad, (and I'm not saying its great), what do you think should happen. Here is your chance to actually pose a thoughtful response and not emotionally driven drivel out of TDS.
 
Trump doesn’t give a fuck about the Palestinians. He’s a money grubbing POS who sees them as an obstacle to making himself richer. The sooner they are removed from Gaza, the better he will like it. I’d love for him to have to live one week as a Palestinian in Gaza. Maybe the Israelis would drop an American bomb on his ass.
I disagree. I think trump does care about palestinians suffering. I also think he sees developmental opportunities. Both can be true.
 
Ethnic cleansing is associated with force, annihilation / extermination, and done without cooperation. Where has trump suggested that palestinians be forced out or exterminated? He threw out a possibility where they could live peacefully and not have to go back through the same all over again because they are to much of a pussy to actually stand up to hamas and chart their own path to peace. Did you see the radicalization of the palestinians during the hostage swap? So, if trump's idea is so bad, (and I'm not saying its great), what do you think should happen. Here is your chance to actually pose a thoughtful response and not emotionally driven drivel out of TDS.
What should be done is we should stay the fuck out of matters in the Middle East and we should cut all ties...diplomatic, aid, and military...with Israel. The Israeli government has routinely shown itself to be a group of thugs with no respect for basic human rights.
 
What should be done is we should stay the fuck out of matters in the Middle East and we should cut all ties...diplomatic, aid, and military...with Israel. The Israeli government has routinely shown itself to be a group of thugs with no respect for basic human rights.
That's about as likely to happen as relocating 1.8 million people to egypt and jordan. And, not at all in our national interest. Try something realistic.
 
I disagree. I think trump does care about palestinians suffering. I also think he sees developmental opportunities. Both can be true.
No they can’t. Gaza is their home. What right does he have to throw them out? It’s not his fucking land. It’s just a repeat of what we did to our Native Americans. They are a weak helpless people and this greedy SOB wants to throw them out. How is that caring about the Palestinians?
 
Then what are you saying?
Here is my opinion in trying to be objective:

1. Trump's comments are pure trump (and certainly in keeping with his personality) that most dimocrats haven't learned to take with a grain of salt so his comments don't shock me and I believe he is searching for something he can achieve that would make him mt. rushmore worthy in his mind. Its mostly ego driven.
2. Trump is right when he says they have nothing to go back to. They don't. There is nothing to support that number of people.
3. Trump is right that even if they could rebuild, it will just get torn down again and again and again.
4. Trump is theoretically correct that with international help and financial assistance they could build without future destruction and supposedly live in peace.
5. Trump is incorrect in his thinking that palestinians would consider it which would mean then that to move forward would require military force.
6. Americans would never support forcefully removing them. I certainly would never support it. Americans wouldn't support military intervention as placeholders or peacekeepers once Americans start getting killed. I would not support a military presence there
7. Trump is incorrect to think that we could do it without turning most of the Arab world against us and make terrorism and violence worse than it is now.
8. Trump's idea is no less preposterous in terms of any concept of lasting peace than palestinians returning to gaza and the process just repeating itself.
9. Due to numbers 5, 6, and 7 I don't support his idea or any such initiative but its commical how many of you jump to ethnic cleansing and lose your shit over something that isn't going to happen. However, getting people to think bigger or differently than just palestinians will return and history repeats itself is something positive even if that isn't his intended objective. His intended objective is the trump company developing land long after he leaves office. Its pretty transparent.
10. Things can change rapidly and I would support something different than just the status quo assuming it didn't put US military lives in danger or cause the arab world to engage in a jihad against the US. So something different would have to enlist acceptance and assistance from the Arab world exclusive of Iran.
 
Here is my opinion in trying to be objective:

1. Trump's comments are pure trump (and certainly in keeping with his personality) that most dimocrats haven't learned to take with a grain of salt so his comments don't shock me and I believe he is searching for something he can achieve that would make him mt. rushmore worthy in his mind. Its mostly ego driven.
Gee, don't remember Republicans taking anything Biden or Obama ever said..........with a GRAIN OF SALT. Sure hope China, Iran, and Russia know all about his SALT.
 
Normally, the Trump White House would just roll out a fresh new distraction to cover for the latest one. But they really got to smoke some good stuff to come up with a distraction to top this one.
 
Hey maga and Good Germans, what're your thoughts on representatives of your team openly advocating for ethnic cleansing?
Well, they aren’t condemning it, are they? Any single Republican on this thread or out in the world? Is there even one?
 
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Here is my opinion in trying to be objective:

1. Trump's comments are pure trump (and certainly in keeping with his personality) that most dimocrats haven't learned to take with a grain of salt so his comments don't shock me and I believe he is searching for something he can achieve that would make him mt. rushmore worthy in his mind. Its mostly ego driven.
2. Trump is right when he says they have nothing to go back to. They don't. There is nothing to support that number of people.
3. Trump is right that even if they could rebuild, it will just get torn down again and again and again.
4. Trump is theoretically correct that with international help and financial assistance they could build without future destruction and supposedly live in peace.
5. Trump is incorrect in his thinking that palestinians would consider it which would mean then that to move forward would require military force.
6. Americans would never support forcefully removing them. I certainly would never support it. Americans wouldn't support military intervention as placeholders or peacekeepers once Americans start getting killed. I would not support a military presence there
7. Trump is incorrect to think that we could do it without turning most of the Arab world against us and make terrorism and violence worse than it is now.
8. Trump's idea is no less preposterous in terms of any concept of lasting peace than palestinians returning to gaza and the process just repeating itself.
9. Due to numbers 5, 6, and 7 I don't support his idea or any such initiative but its commical how many of you jump to ethnic cleansing and lose your shit over something that isn't going to happen. However, getting people to think bigger or differently than just palestinians will return and history repeats itself is something positive even if that isn't his intended objective. His intended objective is the trump company developing land long after he leaves office. Its pretty transparent.
10. Things can change rapidly and I would support something different than just the status quo assuming it didn't put US military lives in danger or cause the arab world to engage in a jihad against the US. So something different would have to enlist acceptance and assistance from the Arab world exclusive of Iran.

And here’s mine, you political coward:
It’s reckless, irresponsible and, frankly, unbecoming of the president of the United States. That’s all that needs to be said about this.
 
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