Trump47 First Week & Beyond Catch-All
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It really is the summation of the whole dissonance of Trump. I will write on a message board something I know is blatantly wrong, contort my soul and my mind to believe something I am so vested in, not admit the mouse trap has caught a mouse, even though a mouse is dead in the trap, eyes bulging....because...???...it's really important to believe the movie lot set of the world I am committed to?
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“…As we’ve described, Trump has pledged to use some antiquated laws to round up and deport noncitizens. These laws (such as the Insurrection Act) give vast power to presidents. And in fact, in his inaugural address, Trump referred to the Alien Enemies Act. That’s the remaining part of the notorious Alien and Sedition Acts — which Thomas Jefferson said reflected a “reign of witches” — and has only been used three times before, most recently to detain Japanese nationals during World War II.
But Trump’s orders go far beyond even these troubling legal bases. He orderedNORTHCOM, the U.S. military command that protects the United States, to develop a military campaign to “repel” the “invasion” resulting from “unlawful mass migration.” As my colleague Liza Goitein notes, the order doesn’t say anything about civil support or mention the Department of Homeland Security. Instead, it relies on the president’s commander-in-chief authority.
This seems to authorize more than help with law enforcement. It seems to authorize the military to go to war on American soil. Will the military, sworn to uphold the law and the Constitution, take the bait? …”
“…As we’ve described, Trump has pledged to use some antiquated laws to round up and deport noncitizens. These laws (such as the Insurrection Act) give vast power to presidents. And in fact, in his inaugural address, Trump referred to the Alien Enemies Act. That’s the remaining part of the notorious Alien and Sedition Acts — which Thomas Jefferson said reflected a “reign of witches” — and has only been used three times before, most recently to detain Japanese nationals during World War II.
But Trump’s orders go far beyond even these troubling legal bases. He orderedNORTHCOM, the U.S. military command that protects the United States, to develop a military campaign to “repel” the “invasion” resulting from “unlawful mass migration.” As my colleague Liza Goitein notes, the order doesn’t say anything about civil support or mention the Department of Homeland Security. Instead, it relies on the president’s commander-in-chief authority.
This seems to authorize more than help with law enforcement. It seems to authorize the military to go to war on American soil. Will the military, sworn to uphold the law and the Constitution, take the bait? …”
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Yeah. Message boards and politics do weird things to some folks.
ZenMode
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I have no interest in getting into a deep religious discussion, because there is no definitive interpretation of the Bible, but Jesus was likely killed because of the belief that he referred to himself as "King of the Jews" and that he was preaching that he and the disciples would be rulers over the 12 Tribes of Israel when God came back, not because he was specifically a political figure of some kind.
He was viewed as a threat to the current rulers of the Roman empire.
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You have no interest not because you don't want to get into a deep religious discussion but because you know you are far out of your element on this discussion. And I don't mean with me- you are likely far more intelligent than I am, as is most everyone else here. I mean that there are folks on this board who have studied this stuff as part of their life's work.
It's not really even debatable that Jesus Christ was an activist. It's clear in his words and his actions that he was. It's also clear that he was arrested, tried, and executed as a political prisoner- a ward of the Roman state- for being an activist.
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Have you actually ever read any of the Bible? Where did you get that twisted theology from? It bears no relationship to anything Jesus ever said.
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ICE being allowed to storm into schools to arrest children does seem like Stephen Miller viagara to me.
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I'm about as flawed and as sinful of a Christian as they come. I don't pray enough, and I don't read the Bible enough. I don't have nearly enough faith in God. I don't always treat others with nearly as much Christ-like love as I should. So I am far from an expert on Christianity or Jesus Christ. But to say that Jesus Christ wasn't an activist is perhaps one of the most absurd arguments as I've ever seen. I truly hope it's schtick and not sincere.
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Totally up his alley. Not to defend Trump, but I don't think he could care less either way.
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excellent post. trump is being a hypocrite because he did the same thing in his inaugural address.
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And some people here claim he’s not just trolling.
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Trump Seeks to Paralyze Independent Privacy and Civil Liberties Watchdog
The Trump White House has told three Democratic-selected members of the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board to resign or be fired, which would stop the independent agency from functioning.
Trump Seeks to Paralyze Independent Privacy and Civil Liberties Watchdog
The Trump White House has told three Democratic-selected members of the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board to resign or be fired, which would stop the independent agency from functioning.
“…Congress established the agency, called the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board, as an independent unit in the executive branch after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. It has security clearances and subpoena power, and is set up to have five members, appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate, who serve six-year terms. Some members are picked by the president, and some are selected by congressional leaders of the other party.
It needs at least three members in order to take official actions like starting a new investigative project or issuing a board report with a policy recommendation. Its work has included scrutiny of surveillance and bulk data collectionactivities, terrorism watch lists and the use of facial recognition and other biometrics at airports.
…On Tuesday evening, each of the three members who were picked by Democrats — Sharon Bradford Franklin, Edward W. Felten and Travis LeBlanc — received an email from the White House telling them to submit resignation letters by the close of business on Jan. 23, according to three people with knowledge of the situation.
The people spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisal. They said the email, sent by Trent Morse, the deputy director of presidential personnel, told the board members that that President Trump would terminate their positions if they did not resign by that deadline.
The fifth seat is currently vacant. The Trump White House did not tell the board’s sole current Republican-picked member, Beth Williams, to leave, two of the people familiar with the matter said.
The departure of the three Democratic-picked members would mean the agency would lack enough members to function as the Trump administration begins its efforts to reshape the nation’s law enforcement and intelligence agencies. …”
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Glad to see you back CFord.
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“…Trump Seeks to Paralyze Independent Privacy and Civil Liberties Watchdog
The Trump White House has told three Democratic-selected members of the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board to resign or be fired, which would stop the independent agency from functioning.
Trump Seeks to Paralyze Independent Privacy and Civil Liberties Watchdog
The Trump White House has told three Democratic-selected members of the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board to resign or be fired, which would stop the independent agency from functioning.www.nytimes.com
“…Congress established the agency, called the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board, as an independent unit in the executive branch after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. It has security clearances and subpoena power, and is set up to have five members, appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate, who serve six-year terms. Some members are picked by the president, and some are selected by congressional leaders of the other party.
It needs at least three members in order to take official actions like starting a new investigative project or issuing a board report with a policy recommendation. Its work has included scrutiny of surveillance and bulk data collectionactivities, terrorism watch lists and the use of facial recognition and other biometrics at airports.
…On Tuesday evening, each of the three members who were picked by Democrats — Sharon Bradford Franklin, Edward W. Felten and Travis LeBlanc — received an email from the White House telling them to submit resignation letters by the close of business on Jan. 23, according to three people with knowledge of the situation.
The people spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisal. They said the email, sent by Trent Morse, the deputy director of presidential personnel, told the board members that that President Trump would terminate their positions if they did not resign by that deadline.
The fifth seat is currently vacant. The Trump White House did not tell the board’s sole current Republican-picked member, Beth Williams, to leave, two of the people familiar with the matter said.
The departure of the three Democratic-picked members would mean the agency would lack enough members to function as the Trump administration begins its efforts to reshape the nation’s law enforcement and intelligence agencies. …”
Ambiguously, however, while Congress declared that the agency was “independent,” the statute establishing the agency does not have a provision that bars presidents from removing its board members without a good cause like misconduct — the usual method by which independent agencies are protected from undue White House interference.
Advisers to Mr. Trump subscribe to a strong view of presidential power called the unitary executive theory, under which the Constitution should be interpreted as giving presidents exclusive control of the executive branch and independent agencies are considered illegitimate. During the campaign, Trump allies vowed to stomp out pockets of independence in the executive branch if he won the election.
… The board also plays a key role in an agreement between the United States and the European Union, which allows businesses to transfer Europeans’ personal data to the United States in part because the board exists as a check on surveillance practices and can oversee a process of addressing complaints from Europeans about any misuse of their data.
Among other things, the board must annually certify that a new Data Protection Review Courtinside the Justice Department, which can investigate and render judgments on any European complaints, complies with the pact. …”
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If ever there was a kapo, it's Steven Miller. Yes, I know what word means, and I am asserting that it applies to him, perhaps with more force than it ever has been. A Jewish man should not be pals with neo-Nazis.
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Literally last week, you were arguing that the government was censoring free speech when it asked a social media company to remove COVID disinformation.
Now your standard for free speech is "did you get arrested or sent for re-education the next day"? Even in Cultural Revolution China, the consequences weren't always next-day. Government retribution is not delivered by FedEx. How is it possible that you don't know this? But hey -- you didn't know anything about jurisdiction, and then you looked it up when called out and maybe you learned something. It can happen.