Trump47 First Week & Beyond Catch-All

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UNCatTech said:
So you have the same expectations from the president as you do 10 year olds on social media?

I've always expected more from my leaders.

Leaders should work to bring people together. Petty bullshit like saying she's bad at her job is so far below that of a good leader, but it's the nor for Trump.

Do you and your colleagues sit around talking down about everyone, making fun of mentally challenged people, or judging people's lives or job performance based on who they voted for?

Do you see this behavior as that of a good leader? Would you want to work at a company where the CEO routinely treated people like shit?
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excellent post. trump is being a hypocrite because he did the same thing in his inaugural address.
 

Trump Seeks to Paralyze Independent Privacy and Civil Liberties Watchdog​

The Trump White House has told three Democratic-selected members of the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board to resign or be fired, which would stop the independent agency from functioning.

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Trump Seeks to Paralyze Independent Privacy and Civil Liberties Watchdog

The Trump White House has told three Democratic-selected members of the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board to resign or be fired, which would stop the independent agency from functioning.
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“…Congress established the agency, called the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board, as an independent unit in the executive branch after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. It has security clearances and subpoena power, and is set up to have five members, appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate, who serve six-year terms. Some members are picked by the president, and some are selected by congressional leaders of the other party.

It needs at least three members in order to take official actions like starting a new investigative project or issuing a board report with a policy recommendation. Its work has included scrutiny of surveillance and bulk data collectionactivities, terrorism watch lists and the use of facial recognition and other biometrics at airports.

…On Tuesday evening, each of the three members who were picked by Democrats — Sharon Bradford Franklin, Edward W. Felten and Travis LeBlanc — received an email from the White House telling them to submit resignation letters by the close of business on Jan. 23, according to three people with knowledge of the situation.

The people spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisal. They said the email, sent by Trent Morse, the deputy director of presidential personnel, told the board members that that President Trump would terminate their positions if they did not resign by that deadline.

The fifth seat is currently vacant. The Trump White House did not tell the board’s sole current Republican-picked member, Beth Williams, to leave, two of the people familiar with the matter said.

The departure of the three Democratic-picked members would mean the agency would lack enough members to function as the Trump administration begins its efforts to reshape the nation’s law enforcement and intelligence agencies. …”
 
nycfan said:

Trump Seeks to Paralyze Independent Privacy and Civil Liberties Watchdog​

The Trump White House has told three Democratic-selected members of the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board to resign or be fired, which would stop the independent agency from functioning.

www.nytimes.com

Trump Seeks to Paralyze Independent Privacy and Civil Liberties Watchdog

The Trump White House has told three Democratic-selected members of the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board to resign or be fired, which would stop the independent agency from functioning.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com

“…Congress established the agency, called the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board, as an independent unit in the executive branch after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. It has security clearances and subpoena power, and is set up to have five members, appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate, who serve six-year terms. Some members are picked by the president, and some are selected by congressional leaders of the other party.

It needs at least three members in order to take official actions like starting a new investigative project or issuing a board report with a policy recommendation. Its work has included scrutiny of surveillance and bulk data collectionactivities, terrorism watch lists and the use of facial recognition and other biometrics at airports.

…On Tuesday evening, each of the three members who were picked by Democrats — Sharon Bradford Franklin, Edward W. Felten and Travis LeBlanc — received an email from the White House telling them to submit resignation letters by the close of business on Jan. 23, according to three people with knowledge of the situation.

The people spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisal. They said the email, sent by Trent Morse, the deputy director of presidential personnel, told the board members that that President Trump would terminate their positions if they did not resign by that deadline.

The fifth seat is currently vacant. The Trump White House did not tell the board’s sole current Republican-picked member, Beth Williams, to leave, two of the people familiar with the matter said.

The departure of the three Democratic-picked members would mean the agency would lack enough members to function as the Trump administration begins its efforts to reshape the nation’s law enforcement and intelligence agencies. …”
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Ambiguously, however, while Congress declared that the agency was “independent,” the statute establishing the agency does not have a provision that bars presidents from removing its board members without a good cause like misconduct — the usual method by which independent agencies are protected from undue White House interference.

Advisers to Mr. Trump subscribe to a strong view of presidential power called the unitary executive theory, under which the Constitution should be interpreted as giving presidents exclusive control of the executive branch and independent agencies are considered illegitimate. During the campaign, Trump allies vowed to stomp out pockets of independence in the executive branch if he won the election.

… The board also plays a key role in an agreement between the United States and the European Union, which allows businesses to transfer Europeans’ personal data to the United States in part because the board exists as a check on surveillance practices and can oversee a process of addressing complaints from Europeans about any misuse of their data.

Among other things, the board must annually certify that a new Data Protection Review Courtinside the Justice Department, which can investigate and render judgments on any European complaints, complies with the pact. …”
 
Ramrouser said:
Budde’s a committed social justice warrior and activist so she’s used to the heat. Plus, she’s making the rounds on television today basking in her 15 minutes of fame. Trump’s tweet towards her only enhances her liberal bona fides.
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Doesn't matter.

He is the president why can't he act like an adult?
 
If ever there was a kapo, it's Steven Miller. Yes, I know what word means, and I am asserting that it applies to him, perhaps with more force than it ever has been. A Jewish man should not be pals with neo-Nazis.
 
Ramrouser said:
That's my point: she had a "mean tweet" directed towards her, not arrested or sent to a re education camp. This is a Republic with free speech. Trump hasn't and won't change this fact.
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Literally last week, you were arguing that the government was censoring free speech when it asked a social media company to remove COVID disinformation.

Now your standard for free speech is "did you get arrested or sent for re-education the next day"? Even in Cultural Revolution China, the consequences weren't always next-day. Government retribution is not delivered by FedEx. How is it possible that you don't know this? But hey -- you didn't know anything about jurisdiction, and then you looked it up when called out and maybe you learned something. It can happen.
 
UNCatTech said:
Doesn't matter.

He is the president why can't he act like an adult?
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Is this 2015? - because we've been having this same discussion about Trump for 10 years. We get it, he's often crude, rude and counterpunches on Twitter/X. Even a lot of his supporters don't particularly like it but it's part of the package.
 
finesse said:
Have you actually ever read any of the Bible? Where did you get that twisted theology from? It bears no relationship to anything Jesus ever said.
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The only things I really attributed to Jesus were "King of the Jews" and the belief that he would be ruler of his 12 disciples, who would be rulers of the 12 Tribes of Israel.

Both of those are in the Bible.

Mark 15:26
And the superscription of His accusation was written above: The King Of The Jews.

This claim likely came from Judas, since Judas was the rat, not because Jesus actually referred to himself as King of the Jews.

Matthew 19:28
"Truly, I say to you, in the new world, when the Son of Man will sit on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel".

Luke 22: 28-30
28 You are those who have stood by me in my trials. 29 And I confer on you a kingdom, just as my Father conferred one on me, 30 so that you may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom and sit on thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

If you're questioning my interpretation of the Bible or the cause of Jesus being target by the Roman leaders, that's fine. Like I said above, in most cases, if not all, there's not one definitive interpretations of any given Bible verse.

There's also the question of what Jesus actually said vs what the writers of the gospels said he said.
 
Ramrouser said:
Is this 2015? - because we've been having this same discussion about Trump for 10 years. We get it, he's often crude, rude and counterpunches on Twitter/X. Even a lot of his supporters don't particularly like it but it's part of the package.
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Do you care to address the multiple questions that have been addressed to you by multiple posters about how and why you, as a Christian, believe that POTUS is somehow above hearing the messaging of Christ? I could have sworn in all of my Sunday school lessons I've never heard that the President of the United States is immune to being taught Christ's words.
 
ZenMode said:
The only things I really attributed to Jesus were "King of the Jews" and the belief that he would be ruler of his 12 disciples, who would be rulers of the 12 Tribes of Israel.

Both of those are in the Bible.

Mark 15:26
And the superscription of His accusation was written above: The King Of The Jews.

This claim likely came from Judas, since Judas was the rat, not because Jesus actually referred to himself as King of the Jews.

Matthew 19:28
"Truly, I say to you, in the new world, when the Son of Man will sit on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel".

Luke 22: 28-30
28 You are those who have stood by me in my trials. 29 And I confer on you a kingdom, just as my Father conferred one on me, 30 so that you may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom and sit on thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

If you're questioning my interpretation of the Bible or the cause of Jesus being target by the Roman leaders, that's fine. Like I said above, in most cases, if not all, there's not one definitive interpretations of any given Bible verse.
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I don't think we are questioning your interpretation of the Bible or the cause of Jesus's execution. I think we are questioning your understanding the term 'activist' and how and why you believe that it does not apply to Jesus.
 
If Jesus was not an activist, what does that make MLK, Ghandi, Bhudda, Muhammad? Pure middle management, keeping their heads down, not making waves.
 
CFordUNC said:
I don't think we are questioning your interpretation of the Bible or the cause of Jesus's execution. I think we are questioning your understanding the term 'activist' and how and why you believe that it does not apply to Jesus.
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I probably should have said "political activist", which is what you made reference to in separate parts. I don't think he was a political figure. He was a prophet, preaching the end of times and the things he thought would get people saved (grace, compassion, helping your fellow man, etc), whose actions sometimes caused him to intersect with politics and politicians.
 
CFordUNC said:
Do you care to address the multiple questions that have been addressed to you by multiple posters about how and why you, as a Christian, believe that POTUS is somehow above hearing the messaging of Christ?
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I thought that has been answered long ago.

Of course, there is nothing wrong with POTUS hearing the message and teachings of Christ. That's the purpose of a religious service he was attending. Bodde used selective messages of Christ to support HER political beliefs and to lecture the POTUS at a ceremonial service as part of the Inauguration.

Many don't like it when Evangelical preachers use selective verses of Christ to support THEIR conservative beliefs. In many cases, I don't either.

She could have preached the sermon - with the same teachings - and left our the activist lecture and it would have had greater effect. Why not let the listener connect the dots? Instead, she went all Joy Reid on POTUS.
 
Ramrouser said:
I thought that has been answered long ago.

Of course, there is nothing wrong with POTUS hearing the message and teachings of Christ. That's the purpose of a religious service he was attending. Bodde used selective messages of Christ to support HER political beliefs and to lecture the POTUS at a ceremonial service as part of the Inauguration.

Many don't like it when Evangelical preachers use selective verses of Christ to support THEIR conservative beliefs. In many cases, I don't either.

She could have preached the sermon - with the same teachings - and left our the activist lecture and it would have had greater effect. Why not let the listener connect the dots? Instead, she went all Joy Reid on POTUS.
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Maybe it would help if you pointed us to the anti-immigrant, America First parts of the gospels that she should have included in her comments?
 
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