Trump47 First Week & Beyond Catch-All

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BlooVooDoo said:
Very boring is an apt descriptor of Episcopal services, IME. As an atheist, I find that far more comforting than the impassioned sermons of baptists and the other savages of the evangelical clade.
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Try 12 Stone around north Atlanta, every Sunday is a rock concert.
 
BlooVooDoo said:
Very boring is an apt descriptor of Episcopal services, IME. As an atheist, I find that far more comforting than the impassioned sermons of baptists and the other savages of the evangelical clade.
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As an atheist who was raised Episcopalian, I agree.
 
BlueSmoke said:
Where are the Democrats? Trump's flanks are exposed on the January 6 pardons!!! Attack, Attack and Attack some more!!!!!

Many of these are violent criminals with prior records no less who can now get their guns and do who knows what. They violently attacked the capital police. Point it out. Point it out.

Why do we let them get away with the "Justice Department was weaponized" argument as the Speaker just used. Point out that to go after violent criminals is their job. Emphasize the word "violent". It will break thru.

And the word "violent" will help inoculate the counter on the Biden pardons. Not easy, but can be done.
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Non-sociopaths tend to continue operating under decency norms, even when it’s blatantly clear decency norms have long since died.
 
nycfan said:




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Budde is becoming the norm in the Episcopal Church's Bishops and priests. Extremely liberal and woke (in many cases female). We see it at the Cathedral I attend, but to a much lesser degree. Yes, I agree that Episcopalian services tend to be boring - but I like it like that - boring and formal.
 
Ramrouser said:
That's my point: she had a "mean tweet" directed towards her, not arrested or sent to a re education camp. This is a Republic with free speech. Trump hasn't and won't change this fact.
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I agree that nothing has or will happen to her. She said what she wanted to say, which is her right. She's not free from criticism.

I would argue that the President of the United States shouldn't use Twitter like a 15 year old girl, but that's a separate topic.
 
Ramrouser said:
That's my point: she had a "mean tweet" directed towards her, not arrested or sent to a re education camp. This is a Republic with free speech. Trump hasn't and won't change this fact.
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I get your point, just noting the petulant reaction of POTUS to being encouraged to show mercy — and there is the likelihood that his reaction will encourage a lot of uglier rhetorical attack and perhaps even threats against his bishop. There is ample precedent from Trump’s base to expect that, but we’ll see. It did result in a member of Congress calling for her to be deported and a major opinion anchor on Fox to dedicate a sequence to denigrating her. So her prayer for mercy toward immigrants and LGBTQ Americans was not without consequences.
 
Ramrouser said:
That's my point: she had a "mean tweet" directed towards her, not arrested or sent to a re education camp. This is a Republic with free speech. Trump hasn't and won't change this fact.
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Umm, they are starting to ask civil servants, career professionals, who they voted for and searching social media for evidence that they didn’t support Trump so they can fire them.

Even a family court lawyer should know that’s not kosher. Then again, you seemed to think the Biden WH asking social media companies, in the interest of public health, to remove demonstrably false posts about Covid-19 was an assault on free speech so perhaps I’m wrong about that.
 
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Ramrouser said:
That's my point: she had a "mean tweet" directed towards her, not arrested or sent to a re education camp. This is a Republic with free speech. Trump hasn't and won't change this fact.
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So you have the same expectations from the president as you do 10 year olds on social media?

I've always expected more from my leaders.

Leaders should work to bring people together. Petty bullshit like saying she's bad at her job is so far below that of a good leader, but it's the nor for Trump.

Do you and your colleagues sit around talking down about everyone, making fun of mentally challenged people, or judging people's lives or job performance based on who they voted for?

Do you see this behavior as that of a good leader? Would you want to work at a company where the CEO routinely treated people like shit?
 
nycfan said:
I get your point, just noting the petulant reaction of POTUS to being encouraged to show mercy — and there is the likelihood that his reaction will encourage a lot of uglier rhetorical attack and perhaps even threats against his bishop. There is ample precedent from Trump’s base to expect that, but we’ll see. It did result in a member of Congress calling for her to be deported and a major opinion anchor on Fox to dedicate a sequence to denigrating her. So her prayer for mercy toward immigrants and LGBTQ Americans was not without consequences.
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Budde’s a committed social justice warrior and activist so she’s used to the heat. Plus, she’s making the rounds on television today basking in her 15 minutes of fame. Trump’s tweet towards her only enhances her liberal bona fides.
 
Ramrouser said:
Budde’s a committed social justice warrior and activist so she’s used to the heat. Plus, she’s making the rounds on television today basking in her 15 minutes of fame. Trump’s tweet towards her only enhances her liberal bona fides.
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May I ask you what about her message yesterday in particular is worthy of the derision and disdain that Trump has displayed- and presumably yourself, judging by your reflexive defense of Trump's reaction to her message?

Is preaching a message of loving one's neighbor and showing compassion and pleading for mercy for the weak, marginalized, and downtrodden, somehow some dirty "liberal bona fides"? If so, do you also believe that Jesus Christ of Nazareth held dirty "liberal bona fides" considering he, quite literally, preached the exact same message in the Gospels on multiple occasions?

Thanks in advance for your willingness to educate myself and others on the board as to how and why a purportedly church-going Christian like yourself finds fault with the Bishop's sermon and not with the President of the United States for finding fault with the words of Christ?
 
nycfan said:
I get your point, just noting the petulant reaction of POTUS to being encouraged to show mercy — and there is the likelihood that his reaction will encourage a lot of uglier rhetorical attack and perhaps even threats against his bishop. There is ample precedent from Trump’s base to expect that, but we’ll see. It did result in a member of Congress calling for her to be deported and a major opinion anchor on Fox to dedicate a sequence to denigrating her. So her prayer for mercy toward immigrants and LGBTQ Americans was not without consequences.
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Trump's reaction, as we should expect, was unprofessional and unpresidential.

For me, she seemed to take an almost activist tone. Not that she was wrong in what she was saying, but the tone felt out of place for a religious service/ceremony.
 
ZenMode said:
Trump's reaction, as we should expect, was unprofessional and unpresidential.

For me, she seemed to take an almost activist tone. Not that she was wrong in what she was saying, but the tone felt out of place for a religious service/ceremony.
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More so than the multiple times Trump has been proclaimed as Chosen by false prophets on stage?
 
ZenMode said:
Trump's reaction, as we should expect, was unprofessional and unpresidential.

For me, she seemed to take an almost activist tone. Not that she was wrong in what she was saying, but the tone felt out of place for a religious service/ceremony.
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I haven't watched the video of the sermon and have only read the transcript, so admittedly I have no idea about the tone itself. But from reading the words she spoke, I don't think it's a reasonable argument to say that essentially using the words of Jesus Christ Himself from the Gospels of the New Testament themselves are "out of place" in any way in....a religious ceremony inside of a church.
 
finesse said:
His ilk knows selected Bible verses and not the Bible. I suspect that they know more about Paul, Revelation and parts of the Old Testament than they do the Gospels.
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the kinds that leave out the 2nd and 3rd words of John 14:6
 
ZenMode said:
Trump's reaction, as we should expect, was unprofessional and unpresidential.

For me, she seemed to take an almost activist tone. Not that she was wrong in what she was saying, but the tone felt out of place for a religious service/ceremony.
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This. Plus, the religious service was in the National Cathedral as a part of the official Inauguration ceremonies. No place for a lecture to the President of the United States by an activist.
 
Ramrouser said:
This. Plus, the religious service was in the National Cathedral as a part of the official Inauguration ceremonies. No place for a lecture to the President of the United States by an activist.
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Says a whole heck of a lot about the strength, authenticity, and conviction of your supposed faith that you believe that 1. the words of Jesus Christ are an unnecessary "lecture", and 2. that the President of the United States is somehow above being "lectured" by the words of Jesus Christ.

Also, what exactly do you think Jesus Christ was, if not an "activist"?
 
finesse said:
More so than the multiple times Trump has been proclaimed as Chosen by false prophets on stage?
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Those were inappropriate also.

Who was Trump's loony toon spiritual advisor that talked about angels from Africa in a sermon? Linda White? It was (something) White, I think.

EDIT: Paula White

Trump's spiritual adviser Paula White calling on Angels from Africa & South America to bring victory​

 
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