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ZenMode said:
I think this is the right thing to do.

Trump's reinstatement of troops booted over COVID vaccine hailed as win for freedom: 'Great day for patriots'​


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Trump's reinstatement of troops booted over COVID vaccine hailed as win for freedom: 'Great day for patriots'

Retired Army bomb disposal expert Rep. Brian Mast, R-Fla., praised news that President Donald Trump will reinstate service members expelled for refusing to take the COVID-19 vaccine.
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Of course you do.
 
finesse said:
Why does that matter? They were still legal orders.
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It matters because there are two sides to the equation - the side giving the orders and the side receiving the orders. The side receiving has to trust that the side giving is considering the safety of the side receiving and is making sound decisions based on all available information.
 
korgguy1971 said:
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I know this is a cartoon but would like us not to use graphics that use suicidal ideation like this, especially with regularly used methods like firearms and hanging. I’ve remove several over the last several months (including one @Rock used] but you guys let me know if you think this is being too sensitive. We discuss a lot of potentially depressing topics — I tend to think we should pause to consider the suicide risk in our country in our discourse.
 
ZenMode said:
It matters because there are two sides to the equation - the side giving the orders and the side receiving the orders. The side receiving has to trust that the side giving is considering the safety of the side receiving and is making sound decisions based on all available information.
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No. They have to trust that the leaders are doing what is best for the nation. That's the oath they swore.

What kind of trust do you think soldiers will have in their comrades if their comrades decide that if they follow an order, their feelings may be hurt? That's what you are essentially supporting and good soldiers can't do that and can't be allowed to do that.
 
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nycfan said:
I know this is a cartoon but would like us not to use graphics that use suicidal ideation like this, especially with regularly used methods like firearms and hanging. I’ve remove several over the last several months (including one @Rock used] but you guys let me know if you think this is being too sensitive. We discuss a lot of potentially depressing topics — I tend to think we should pause to consider the suicide risk in our country in our discourse.
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I don't agree, but I understand what you mean. In the grand scheme it's neither a big deal nor a hill upon which I wish to die, so I'll gladly delete the post. No problem.
 
finesse said:
No. They have to trust that the leaders are doing what is best for the nation. That's the oath they swore.

What kind of trust do you think soldiers will have in their comrades if their comrades decide that if they follow an order, their feelings may be hurt? That's what you are essentially supporting and good soldiers can't and can't be allowed to do that.
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What's best for the nation, among other things, is that our military trust their leadership to consider safety and made good decisions. That's why The decision to send troops into battle is a big one. Leadership knows that husbands, wives, sons and daughters lives will be lost.

Also, we aren't talking about a refusing to execute a wartime order during battle.
 
ZenMode said:
What's best for the nation, among other things, is that our military trust their leadership to consider safety and made good decisions. That's why The decision to send troops into battle is a big one. Leadership knows that husbands, wives, sons and daughters lives will be lost.

Also, we aren't talking about a refusing to execute a wartime order during battle.
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You either don't get it or refuse to get it. Either way, you couldn't be more mistaken. If somebody else wants to play with this broken toy, have at it.
 
ChileG said:
I think what was important to them was showing their MAGA bona fides
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Putting aside the fact that military personnel were among the lowest risk for serious covid issues, you don't think there was any reason for concern about the vaccine? Other drug approvals take a decade or more, which allows for some view into possible long-term side effects. That wasn't the case with the Covid vaccine. There's also the reality that the mRNA delivery system had never been used in anything remotely close to the scale as it was being used for the Covid vaccine.

I ask that as someone who got the vaccine and one booster.
 
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