U.S. Budget & OBBB | OCT 1 - Gov’t Shutdown Begins

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The elephant in the room for Democrats, is what are they going to run on in 2028 to fix the budget and fix social security to have any credibility and win?
A huge tax increase?
You actually think deficit spending and/or the debt matters to the American people?

How very Howard Baker of you.
 
You actually think deficit spending and/or the debt matters to the American people?

How very Howard Baker of you.
Poor Howard. Good point. I suppose its on my mind due to the rise in bond rates yesterday. Seem like the ten year was above 5%. Plus the downgrade in our credit rating. The math is not working. In four years, this issue may matter to the American people simply because how its connected to everything and how the problem is starting to compound.
 
Heather Cox Richardson

 
The House is expected to vote on the mega maga tax bill this morning … GOP seems to think they have the votes …

 


MAGA freeing Americans from the scourge of expensive silencers …
 


But signs are that the bill will pass and go to the Senate, which intends to to revise it before voting on it, so we won’t really know the outcome until Senate passage and reconciliation… but we’ll know the contours.
 

Bill Would Give Newborns $1,000 in ‘Trump Accounts’​



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The original draft called for the funds to be put into new a “money account for growth and advancement,” or, as the bill suggested they be called, a “MAGA account.”

Apparently, though, endowing the accounts with the name of President Trump’s political movement was not clear enough. As part of a series of last-minute changes House Republicans made to their broad fiscal package Wednesday night, they decided to just cut to the chase. The money would now be deposited in a “Trump account.”

Under the bill, children born between Jan., 1, 2025, and Jan. 1, 2029, would receive the money, which would be invested on their behalf in financial markets. Once they had grown up, they could withdraw the proceeds to pay for certain expenses, including going to college or buying a house. The child’s parents, or other third parties, could also contribute [after-tax] to the account.…”
 

Bill Would Give Newborns $1,000 in ‘Trump Accounts’​



“…
The original draft called for the funds to be put into new a “money account for growth and advancement,” or, as the bill suggested they be called, a “MAGA account.”

Apparently, though, endowing the accounts with the name of President Trump’s political movement was not clear enough. As part of a series of last-minute changes House Republicans made to their broad fiscal package Wednesday night, they decided to just cut to the chase. The money would now be deposited in a “Trump account.”

Under the bill, children born between Jan., 1, 2025, and Jan. 1, 2029, would receive the money, which would be invested on their behalf in financial markets. Once they had grown up, they could withdraw the proceeds to pay for certain expenses, including going to college or buying a house. The child’s parents, or other third parties, could also contribute [after-tax] to the account.…”


Good grief. Pure vanity to Trump. This will cost around 4 billion extra a year just to get his name on it.

And just what we need, another account or tax issue to keep up with. I assume the investment earnings will be tax free? Parents can't tap into it?
 
Good grief. Pure vanity to Trump. This will cost around 4 billion extra a year just to get his name on it.

And just what we need, another account or tax issue to keep up with. I assume the investment earnings will be tax free? Parents can't tap into it?
No and maybe/mostly no. The earnings will be taxed on withdrawal, so this is not a tax advantaged account, but hey it is juiced with a $1,000 deposit. Parents can tap into it but I’ve seen conflicting details on the conditions for parents to use the funds for the minor child.
 
No and maybe/mostly no. The earnings will be taxed on withdrawal, so this is not a tax advantaged account, but hey it is juiced with a $1,000 deposit. Parents can tap into it but I’ve seen conflicting details on the conditions for parents to use the funds for the minor child.
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  • Beneficiaries would pay long-term capital gains tax rates, which are far lower than the tax rates on regular income, if the money goes to qualifying expenses like education or a mortgage.
  • It's less beneficial than a 529 plan, in which withdrawals are tax-free for a variety of educational expenses, and whose contributions might be eligible for state income tax deductions. …”
 
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