U.S. Budget & OBBB | OCT 1 - Gov’t Shutdown Begins

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More than 1,000 staff at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention were laid off, affecting units that respond to infectious-disease outbreaks, analyze science and health data to develop policy, and monitor the safety of employees, according to multiple individuals who have received layoff notices and others with direct knowledge of the cuts.

Among those fired were leaders of CDC’s response to the growing number of measles cases in the United States and abroad, including one official who has more than 28 years experience overseeing a dozen federal agencies that have responded to outbreaks of Ebola, Marburg virus and mpox in Africa over the years, said the individuals, speaking on the condition of anonymity for fear of retaliation….”


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nycfan said:
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More than 1,000 staff at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention were laid off, affecting units that respond to infectious-disease outbreaks, analyze science and health data to develop policy, and monitor the safety of employees, according to multiple individuals who have received layoff notices and others with direct knowledge of the cuts.

Among those fired were leaders of CDC’s response to the growing number of measles cases in the United States and abroad, including one official who has more than 28 years experience overseeing a dozen federal agencies that have responded to outbreaks of Ebola, Marburg virus and mpox in Africa over the years, said the individuals, speaking on the condition of anonymity for fear of retaliation….”


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Callatoroy said:
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Forget Obamacare subsidies — it’s time to mend or END the whole thing

Blindly tossing fresh trillions down that hole is nuts: Time to fix it — or scrap it altogether.
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lol at the idea that Obamacare has been a “disaster.” Republicans have had 15 years to come up with a better “free market” solution for health care that can provide broad, quality coverage without huge premium increases but they haven’t, because they can’t. Their only ideas are either to kick millions of poor people off of health care or to make the insurance crappier and cover less to keep costs lower.

We really just need to go to single payer, but Pubs will of course never agree to SOSHALISM.
 
Callatoroy said:
nypost.com

Forget Obamacare subsidies — it’s time to mend or END the whole thing

Blindly tossing fresh trillions down that hole is nuts: Time to fix it — or scrap it altogether.
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This is crazy disingenuous. Like, these are Trump level misrepresentations. There are millions who were and would be completely denied coverage due to preexisting conditions without the provisions of the ACA. The ACA was the compromise that Republicans wanted until they abandoned any pretense of cooperation on heatlhcare.

And yes, premiums have "soared" by 80%, which is at about half the clip they were rising prior to the ACA.

The system sucks. That is true. Going backwards is not the answer.
 
wmheel1287 said:
This is crazy disingenuous. Like, these are Trump level misrepresentations. There are millions who were and would be completely denied coverage due to preexisting conditions without the provisions of the ACA. The ACA was the compromise that Republicans wanted until they abandoned any pretense of cooperation on heatlhcare.

And yes, premiums have "soared" by 80%, which is at about half the clip they were rising prior to the ACA.

The system sucks. That is true. Going backwards is not the answer.
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Going backwards is the only answer Republicans have for literally anything.
 
wmheel1287 said:
This is crazy disingenuous. Like, these are Trump level misrepresentations. There are millions who were and would be completely denied coverage due to preexisting conditions without the provisions of the ACA. The ACA was the compromise that Republicans wanted until they abandoned any pretense of cooperation on heatlhcare.

And yes, premiums have "soared" by 80%, which is at about half the clip they were rising prior to the ACA.

The system sucks. That is true. Going backwards is not the answer.
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I didn’t take it as going backwards although there was a mention of the way it used to be. I took the overall theme as fix Obamacare or replace it with something else but continuing with the status quo wasn’t the answer. And you can’t just act as if the COVID era subsidies weren’t temporary. Dems act as if they were supposed to be permanent.
 
wmheel1287 said:
This is crazy disingenuous. Like, these are Trump level misrepresentations. There are millions who were and would be completely denied coverage due to preexisting conditions without the provisions of the ACA. The ACA was the compromise that Republicans wanted until they abandoned any pretense of cooperation on heatlhcare.

And yes, premiums have "soared" by 80%, which is at about half the clip they were rising prior to the ACA.

The system sucks. That is true. Going backwards is not the answer.
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My increases are on par with what they were prior to Obamacare.
 
Callatoroy said:
I didn’t take it as going backwards although there was a mention of the way it used to be. I took the overall theme as fix Obamacare or replace it with something else but continuing with the status quo wasn’t the answer. And you can’t just act as if the COVID era subsidies weren’t temporary. Dems act as if they were supposed to be permanent.
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In my reading, there was far more than a mention. Several points centered around removing the coverage requirements of the ACA...that undoubtedly is a reference to bringing back prohibitions on pre-existing conditions. The article also states that a return to a deregulated private market would be preferable for most Americans. That all sounds an awful lot like just turning back to the system in place before the ACA. That system was yielding premium increases at a greater rate than now and covering far fewer Americans. I know. I'm one of them. I had gastric bypass surgery in 2005 while insured by BCBSNC. They terminated my policy the following January and I could not purchase coverage anywhere. i was uninsured by force until the beginning of the ACA. It is no exaggeration to say that I would either be dead or bankrupt without ACA coverage due to needed surgery in 2023. I pay a full price policy on the ACA and my cost has risen modestly over the last 5+ years. It even went down one year in there. If the ACA were repealed, BCBSNC would drop me again tomorrow.
 
wmheel1287 said:
In my reading, there was far more than a mention. Several points centered around removing the coverage requirements of the ACA...that undoubtedly is a reference to bringing back prohibitions on pre-existing conditions. The article also states that a return to a deregulated private market would be preferable for most Americans. That all sounds an awful lot like just turning back to the system in place before the ACA. That system was yielding premium increases at a greater rate than now and covering far fewer Americans. I know. I'm one of them. I had gastric bypass surgery in 2005 while insured by BCBSNC. They terminated my policy the following January and I could not purchase coverage anywhere. i was uninsured by force until the beginning of the ACA. It is no exaggeration to say that I would either be dead or bankrupt without ACA coverage due to needed surgery in 2023. I pay a full price policy on the ACA and my cost has risen modestly over the last 5+ years. It even went down one year in there. If the ACA were repealed, BCBSNC would drop me again tomorrow.
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I also have a policy purchased on the exchange. Again, I didn’t take it the author was advocating a return to pre-existing condition era healthcare, nor am I. The answer isn’t continuing the current level of funding in perpetuity either.
 
GoHeelsweeeehoooo said:
Make Medicare available to everyone and have insurance companies sell Medicare supplement plans available again for everyone
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Isn't that what they already do in Australia? I believe their universal healthcare system is called Medicare as well and it's similar to ours in many respects, except that it covers all Australian citizens, and not just 65 and older like we have here. Until you're 15 you are covered on your parent's plan, but when you turn 15 you can get your own Medicare card and plan in Australia. It does cover more than American Medicare does in some areas. You can also pay for supplemental insurance if you can afford it, so they still have private insurance plans there. Seems like that would be a good solution to our healthcare issues - just extend Medicare to everyone and not only for people 65 and older. Of course Republicans would fight it like hell, as would a good chunk of the medical insurance industry.
 
Callatoroy said:
I also have a policy purchased on the exchange. Again, I didn’t take it the author was advocating a return to pre-existing condition era healthcare, nor am I. The answer isn’t continuing the current level of funding in perpetuity either.
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I agree with that sentiment. I also think that at least half of the political spectrum would absolutely be on board with replacing the ACA with a single payer system that provides universal basic coverage and allows for supplemental coverages for those who wish to purchase it either personally or as an employer benefit.
 
Callatoroy said:
Not sure what point you are trying to make. Im aware of public opinion numbers. Popularity wasn’t part of the editorial. Also, popularity is likely to suffer when the Covid level subsidies sunset.
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The point is I pray to God Pubs keep running on repealing Obamacare, because that’s never been popular and it’s becoming less so every year.
 
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