U.S. Budget & OBBB | OCT 1 - Gov’t Shutdown Begins

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NOVAHEEL13 said:
Yeah, they are all ok with this shit so they can RIF people.
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The Millers and Voughts of the world are fine with it. But the elected officials, including Trump, are going to get more frustrated as they keep getting political heat for it.
 
rodoheel said:
The Millers and Voughts of the world are fine with it. But the elected officials, including Trump, are going to get more frustrated as they keep getting political heat for it.
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I'm definitely noticing a difference in tone between congressional Dems and Pubs. For once, Dems seem to be sticking to their messaging and conveying it effectively. Pubs appear to be panicking. They don't have anything they're really fighting for except permanently firing thousands of federal employees, and they're realizing that's a losing position.
 
nycfan said:
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I have a friend that really hates the ACA. I believe him but he swears his rates doubled after this passed. Self employed family of 4. Less than 100k a year in pay on paper. Coverage went from 1000 a month to 2000. One of the only people I know who says it made their life worse.

I used to have a union plan with yearly and lifetime caps on coverage. ACA wiped that out and turned our plan into a Cadillac plan. I didn’t really know anyone with a better plan.
 
HandsonFire said:
I have a friend that really hates the ACA. I believe him but he swears his rates doubled after this passed. Self employed family of 4. Less than 100k a year in pay on paper. Coverage went from 1000 a month to 2000. One of the only people I know who says it made their life worse.
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My first thought is that he was on a plan that didn't really cover very much but was terribly cheap and a lot of the provisions that allowed the plan to be so inexpensive were made illegal by the ACA.

Of course, that's just a guess, but it would be interesting to compare his before and after ACA plans beyond the simple cost.
 


Stepping back and viewing this through a crass, purely political lens, this is political malpractice by Vought and Trump. They are vocally and unnecessarily shifting the general public’s perception of who to blame for lost services during the shutdown and taking long term ownership of the continued lost services.
 
SnoopRob said:
My first thought is that he was on a plan that didn't really cover very much but was terribly cheap and a lot of the provisions that allowed the plan to be so inexpensive were made illegal by the ACA.

Of course, that's just a guess, but it would be interesting to compare his before and after ACA plans beyond the simple cost.
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I was on an ACA plan bc I was a self employed independent contractor from the first year until last year. I was on the same (or a similar plan) for years which was a mid-tier plan and it nearly tripped in cost even with a subsidy for the years I needed it.

I would think that despite being on a super cheap plan before, with the cost of even the cheapest ACA plan ridiculously expensive even with a modest subsidy,I can see why people would be irritated paying a shitton for it wishing they had their old insurance.

That all said, we missed our chance to roll healthcare insurance into a single payer Medicaid for all system. I doubt that shit will ever happen anytime soon despite it being the best option for everyone
 
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