U.S. Budget & OBBB | OCT 1 - Gov’t Shutdown Begins

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lawtig02 said:
As we get ready to enter week three of the shutdown with no sign Mike Johnson intends to bring the House back to DC, I'm starting to get a little suspicious the Pubs were not really interested in negotiating in good faith during the seven weeks the CR would have funded.
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Yeah, they are all ok with this shit so they can RIF people.
 
rodoheel said:
The Millers and Voughts of the world are fine with it. But the elected officials, including Trump, are going to get more frustrated as they keep getting political heat for it.
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I'm definitely noticing a difference in tone between congressional Dems and Pubs. For once, Dems seem to be sticking to their messaging and conveying it effectively. Pubs appear to be panicking. They don't have anything they're really fighting for except permanently firing thousands of federal employees, and they're realizing that's a losing position.
 
nycfan said:
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I have a friend that really hates the ACA. I believe him but he swears his rates doubled after this passed. Self employed family of 4. Less than 100k a year in pay on paper. Coverage went from 1000 a month to 2000. One of the only people I know who says it made their life worse.

I used to have a union plan with yearly and lifetime caps on coverage. ACA wiped that out and turned our plan into a Cadillac plan. I didn’t really know anyone with a better plan.
 
HandsonFire said:
I have a friend that really hates the ACA. I believe him but he swears his rates doubled after this passed. Self employed family of 4. Less than 100k a year in pay on paper. Coverage went from 1000 a month to 2000. One of the only people I know who says it made their life worse.
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My first thought is that he was on a plan that didn't really cover very much but was terribly cheap and a lot of the provisions that allowed the plan to be so inexpensive were made illegal by the ACA.

Of course, that's just a guess, but it would be interesting to compare his before and after ACA plans beyond the simple cost.
 


Stepping back and viewing this through a crass, purely political lens, this is political malpractice by Vought and Trump. They are vocally and unnecessarily shifting the general public’s perception of who to blame for lost services during the shutdown and taking long term ownership of the continued lost services.
 
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