Ukraine War | Russia launches (I)CBM (not nuke) at Ukraine?

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Russia Could Be Able to Attack NATO by 2030: German Intelligence

Russia will likely be capable of attacking NATO by 2030 and is ramping up efforts to disrupt Ukraine's Western supporters, German intelligence chiefs warned.
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Geheimdienste warnen vor zunehmender russischer Aktivität

Die deutschen Geheimdienste beobachten ein "aggressives Agieren russischer Nachrichtendienste". Insbesondere Spionage und Sabotage nähmen zu. Die Spitzen der deutschen Geheimdienste stellten nun klare Forderungen an die Politik.
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a bit of conflict, no?
 
Batt Boy said:
thedefensepost.com

Russia Could Be Able to Attack NATO by 2030: German Intelligence

Russia will likely be capable of attacking NATO by 2030 and is ramping up efforts to disrupt Ukraine's Western supporters, German intelligence chiefs warned.
thedefensepost.com thedefensepost.com

www.br.de

Geheimdienste warnen vor zunehmender russischer Aktivität

Die deutschen Geheimdienste beobachten ein "aggressives Agieren russischer Nachrichtendienste". Insbesondere Spionage und Sabotage nähmen zu. Die Spitzen der deutschen Geheimdienste stellten nun klare Forderungen an die Politik.
www.br.de www.br.de

a bit of conflict, no?
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They were talking about this on NPR on my commute this morning. I haven't dug into it, but they were saying something about how Russia could produce the kind of arms in 6 months that Germany would take like 5 years. My first thought was that Russia has geared it's entire society around war at this point, so that's probably true, but Germany could and would shift if needed to match the threat. My second thought was Russia can barely handle Ukraine, so I'm not seeing the threat to Germany any time soon and likely not in Putin's lifetime.

I do agree that the Russian threat means Europe is going to have to step up it's defense game, which it seems to be doing, and it means the money we are spending in Ukraine to halt their progress is some of the best defense money we're likely to ever spend.
 
Enigma94 said:
They were talking about this on NPR on my commute this morning. I haven't dug into it, but they were saying something about how Russia could produce the kind of arms in 6 months that Germany would take like 5 years. My first thought was that Russia has geared it's entire society around war at this point, so that's probably true, but Germany could and would shift if needed to match the threat. My second thought was Russia can barely handle Ukraine, so I'm not seeing the threat to Germany any time soon and likely not in Putin's lifetime.

I do agree that the Russian threat means Europe is going to have to step up it's defense game, which it seems to be doing, and it means the money we are spending in Ukraine to halt their progress is some of the best defense money we're likely to ever spend.
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I heard that too which is why I went looking.

The Germans have a trump card the Ukrainians don't. The US. 5 of our 7 European garrisons are in Germany.
 
Putin admitted today that there were NK troops in Russia and if they would be used in Russia or Ukraine was essentially his decision alone
 
If this ramps up participation in the war by South Korea it could ultimately be helpful to Ukraine. I don't think manpower is what will stop Russia from winning the war, but Ukraine has a weapons disadvantage that keeps them from fully utilizing their army. So extra troops don't move the needle as much for Russia as extra munitions would for Ukraine.
 
Wasn’t sure where to put this, but this seemed like the best option.

Ummm, WTF?

Trump Put Musk on Phone With Zelensky During Call​

Elon Musk was with Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago when the president-elect spoke with Ukraine’s leader. It is not clear if they discussed any change in U.S. policy toward Ukraine.

www.nytimes.com

Elon Musk Joined Trump’s Call With Zelensky

Elon Musk was with Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago when the president-elect spoke with Ukraine’s leader. It is not clear if they discussed any change in U.S. policy toward Ukraine.
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BlooVooDoo said:
Wasn’t sure where to put this, but this seemed like the best option.

Ummm, WTF?

Trump Put Musk on Phone With Zelensky During Call​

Elon Musk was with Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago when the president-elect spoke with Ukraine’s leader. It is not clear if they discussed any change in U.S. policy toward Ukraine.

www.nytimes.com

Elon Musk Joined Trump’s Call With Zelensky

Elon Musk was with Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago when the president-elect spoke with Ukraine’s leader. It is not clear if they discussed any change in U.S. policy toward Ukraine.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
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Starlink is used by Ukranian troops. Russia uses a similar system. Musk has some vested interest, but probably not a huge amount. Trump will want to pacify Putin by giving concessions to Russia. It will be interesting to see what comes out of this group hug.
 
mynameisbond said:
Starlink is used by Ukranian troops. Russia uses a similar system. Musk has some vested interest, but probably not a huge amount. Trump will want to pacify Putin by giving concessions to Russia. It will be interesting to see what comes out of this group hug.
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I think they were letting Zelensky know he might want to move his family to Boca before February.
 
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