Ukraine War | Zelensky seeks NATO guarantees for unoccupied Ukraine for peace

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HeelingAg said:
"And yet we don’t let Ukraine strike back properly."

I mean, this isn't exactly a mystery, yeah? Sociopath with the largest nuclear arsenal on the planet, and all.
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Yeah. It's almost as if nuclear weapons are so good that many countries have been enduring sanctions in order to develop them. It's almost as if the world's poorest country -- or one of them for sure -- put itself on the map because of its nukes. Hmm.
 
HeelingAg said:
"And yet we don’t let Ukraine strike back properly."

I mean, this isn't exactly a mystery, yeah? Sociopath with the largest nuclear arsenal on the planet, and all.
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The saddest irony here lies in the details of the Budapest Memorandum.
 

Biden Allows Ukraine to Strike Russia With Long-Range U.S. Missiles​

With two months left in office, the president for the first time authorized the Ukrainian military to use the system known as ATACMS to help defend its forces in the Kursk region of Russia.
President Biden has authorized the first use of U.S.-supplied long-range missiles by Ukraine for strikes inside Russia, U.S. officials said.
The weapons are likely to be initially employed against Russian and North Korean troops in defense of Ukrainian forces in the Kursk region of western Russia, the officials said.
Mr. Biden’s decision is a major change in U.S. policy. The choice has divided his advisers, and his shift comes two months before President-elect Donald J. Trump takes office, having vowed to limit further support for Ukraine.
Allowing the Ukrainians to use the long-range missiles, known as the Army Tactical Missile Systems, or ATACMS, came in response to Russia’s surprise decision to bring North Korean troops into the fight, officials said.

www.nytimes.com

Biden Allows Ukraine to Strike Russia With Long-Range U.S. Missiles

With two months left in office, the president for the first time authorized the Ukrainian military to use the system known as ATACMS to help defend its forces in the Kursk region of Russia.
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I saw this morning too where there's suggestion Kim could send as many as 100,000 North Korean troops to the battlefield.

That would be a horrible development, for a number of reasons.
 
I have a friend who is Estonian. I visited Tallinn in mid 90s and he hooked me up with relatives. He says the mood back home is very dire. They have a real fear that Trump will cut some deal for "peace" in Ukraine that allows Russians back into the Baltics.
 
I think this is a brilliant move by Biden. He knows Putin won’t escalate it right before his mark takes office. It also sends a signal to Putin that we are punishing him for fucking with us.
 
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Whatever is happening now in Ukraine doesn’t matter for shit.

Trump will hand Ukraine to Putin on Day One or Day Two.

NATO will be neutered by April.
 
President Joe Biden has authorized Ukraine to use a powerful American long-range weapon for limited strikes inside Russia in response to North Korea’s deployment of thousands of troops to aid Moscow’s war effort, according to two senior U.S. officials
 
President Joe Biden has authorized Ukraine to use a powerful American long-range weapon for limited strikes inside Russia in response to North Korea’s deployment of thousands of troops to aid Moscow’s war effort, according to two senior U.S. officials
 
Delayed defenestration?



Vladimir Shklyarov, a world-renowned Russian ballet star, has died after falling from the fifth floor of a building on Saturday.

His death was confirmed by the Mariinsky Theater, a venue in the city of St. Petersburg where Shklyarov was the highest-ranking dancer.

“This is a huge loss for the entire Mariinsky Theater team,” it said.

“He died a natural death. It’s not a crime,” a source in the emergency services told RIA Novosti.

Shklyarov died two days before he was due to undergo complex spinal surgery and had been taking “serious painkillers” for some time, Russian media reported.


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In the days after Russia launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, Shklyarov was quoted as speaking out in support of peace.

“I am against the war in Ukraine! I am for the people, for a peaceful sky above our heads!” he was quoted as saying in a Facebook post by Alexei Ratmansky, a Russian-Ukrainian former ballet dancer.

Ratmansky, a former director of Moscow’s Bolshoi Ballet, had been collecting anti-war messages from other figures in the ballet world.
 
Zoo_View said:
Whatever is happening now in Ukraine doesn’t matter for shit.

Trump will hand Ukraine to Putin on Day One or Day Two.

NATO will be neutered by April.
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I generally agree.

However, this gqp congress and entire executive branch is filled with lackeys, unlike the prior ttump admin. Whatever dirt or bribery putin has on Trump isn’t worth nearly as much now that ttump is an imperial president with unfettered access to public coffers. There is next to zero chance a gqp house would impeach him, even if video emerged of ttump getting pegged by a black Haitian trans person while selling nuclear secrets to Iran on speaker phone.

I genuinely don’t know what Putin has on ttump that materially matters, anymore, particularly in an age of closed media ecosystems and a maga cult that literally trusts the word of ttump over their own eyes and ears. The only leverage I see Putin having is personality dominance. Ttump remains the fragile ego he’s been since childhood - maybe Putin simply has “you’re my punk, and you’ll like it” leverage.

On the flip, with ttump having no risk to self, he may actually try to put on his big boy pants with respect to Putin - sociopathic narcissists are effectively incapable of maintaining status quo relationships.
 
altmin said:
Delayed defenestration?



Vladimir Shklyarov, a world-renowned Russian ballet star, has died after falling from the fifth floor of a building on Saturday.

His death was confirmed by the Mariinsky Theater, a venue in the city of St. Petersburg where Shklyarov was the highest-ranking dancer.

“This is a huge loss for the entire Mariinsky Theater team,” it said.

“He died a natural death. It’s not a crime,” a source in the emergency services told RIA Novosti.

Shklyarov died two days before he was due to undergo complex spinal surgery and had been taking “serious painkillers” for some time, Russian media reported.


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In the days after Russia launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, Shklyarov was quoted as speaking out in support of peace.

“I am against the war in Ukraine! I am for the people, for a peaceful sky above our heads!” he was quoted as saying in a Facebook post by Alexei Ratmansky, a Russian-Ukrainian former ballet dancer.

Ratmansky, a former director of Moscow’s Bolshoi Ballet, had been collecting anti-war messages from other figures in the ballet world.
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So he died a natural death after falling from the fifth floor of a building.
 


Lmao. Russia is so desperate to make the rest of the world think they will actually use nuclear weapons and nobody is buying it.

My biggest policy disagreement with the Biden administration has been the refusal until now to allow Ukraine to strike into Russia with U.S.-provided missiles. Russia never has and never will have the balls to use nuclear weapons- tactical or otherwise- and we should have been calling their weak ass bluff a long time ago. I hope Ukraine spends the next two months raining down unholy hell onto Russians so that they get a little taste of what the last three years have been like in Ukraine.
 
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