Ukraine War

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Enigma94 said:
I don't see any reason why Ukraine would agree to this. Basically Russia gets to keep everything they have and can then rebuild in order to try again, but this time with an established foothold in Ukraine to operate from. Also, Russia doesn't have to pay anything to Ukraine for the destruction they caused, while getting sanctions lifted so they have plenty of money and access to tech to rebuild. The EU gets the bill for rebuilding and supplying troops for a DMZ. Sounds pretty much in line with what one would expect from Trump - assist Russia and screw over our allies.
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I think the only reason they would consider agreeing to this is to stop having their people killed and because they are afraid that they are going to lose even more if the war goes on. Not saying now is that time for them sometimes you have to cut your losses.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
I think the only reason they would consider agreeing to this is to stop having their people killed and because they are afraid that they are going to lose even more if the war goes on. Not saying now is that time for them sometimes you have to cut your losses.
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True, also, you only cut your losses for a brief period. Putin will go for Kiev, whether Ukraine stops or continues fighting, today. Ukraine has no good answers, unless the EU fully commits to defeating Putin through arms transfers and economic sanctions. Trouble is, the right has greatly advanced their influence in the EU, and EU citizens would have to accept economic turmoil and likely some damn cold nights.
 
Batt Boy said:
Vlad says things are difficult
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Putin called the situation in the Kursk region very difficult

A very difficult situation has developed in Kursk region. This was stated by Russian President Vladimir Putin during a meeting with the regional deputy head Alexander Khinshtein on February 5.The news is supplemented by
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Ukraine should make a beeline from Kursk to Moscow ... they'd "stand a damn good chance of catching 'em with their pants down."
 
Bobfripp said:
Ukraine should make a beeline from Kursk to Moscow ... they'd "stand a damn good chance of catching 'em with their pants down."
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I mean, that general was seemingly moments from taking Moscow.

Has the story been told as to why he backed off?
 
From a strategic point of view, Ukraine is actually winning this war (thou not enough to win its territory back). And I suspect Zelensky is just playing games with Trump on making peace to keep arms flowing as long as possible.

Ukraine seems to have kept its economy and war production going. Especially drones. Which is allowing it to cripple Russia's oil industry before it moves to bombing other critical sectors in Russia.

The economy, may be one reason why Ukraine has been reluctant to pull the younger folks into the military, although news is coming out that they may be changing that. My guess is that they are doing it to make allies happy.

Even if American aid gets pulled at some point, its not like Ukraine will collapse. Russia is unable to exploit a breakthrough even if there is a break in the line somewhere.
 
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