UNC Football Catch-all | Bill Belichick Era underway
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should be terms for a breach of contract if you ask me
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My thoughts on this season - we really sucked at the beginning of the year - I do think we showed some improvement after the Clemson game but we were still bad just not quite as bad - the wake Forest game was a very poor performance for sure - we are still a really bad team and I'm curious to see what changes we make in the off-season - also curious to see what players leave and who we bring in
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if and i mean if our d has improved its only because of the putrid offenses they have been lucked into playing
I really encourage anyone who had subscription to read that post on On3. It really is very well done, with a ton of information for those interested in facts regarding the portal. As one example, remember the Chandler Morris deal. He entered portal before BB hired, and committed 4 days after BB hired, so we were never a player. Lots of stuff like that in there. Really is a very good and long read.
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Personally I think OL is a much bigger question mark next year than WR (at least for now - pending portal entries). Obviously we need to find a QB too; at this point I suspect it's not Baker, as the staff had every incentive to get him in this year if they think he's a difference maker. But as others have pointed out, the offense is going to be a lot better for us to even get to 7-5/8-4 ranges next year, as the schedule is much more difficult than this year's creampuff schedule (this year and last year may be the two weakest schedules in UNC history, and we couldn't get more than six wins in either; pathetic).
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I have more confidence in the defensive coaching simply because Belichick, for whatever flaws and faults I think he has these days, is truly one of the game's all-time great defensive masterminds. There's no question about that in my mind. But I think at this juncture we still have a below average defense. It's not awful like it has been in recent years but it's still not good. The defensive performances against Cal, Virginia, Syracuse, and Stanford, while certainly more spirited and with more apparent effort than the first 5 games, were still mostly indictments of how poor those other offenses are than anything else (though, I do think that the defensive performance against UVA was the best of the season). But the game against Wake was a really poor defensive performance. Their offense is dreadful, and they completely bullied us physically from the opening snap to the last one. They had the most offensive output and the highest YPC of any team they've played this year not named Western Carolina. We'll need a miracle to not get boatraced by Duke and NC State's offenses.
I am not counting on us seeing Bryce Baker suit up for UNC next year. I hope that I'm wrong. I think that we are almost certain to lose one of him or Newkirk to the portal, and my bet is on Baker. I am also not counting on there being nearly as many elite/instant-impact quarterbacks in the portal this offseason as in years past now that the new revenue sharing era has begun and teams will do everything they can to retain their most important position. And anyway, I don't think that any influx of new offensive personnel is going to matter much if we don't drastically change our offensive schmeatic philosophy and the way we manage the game offensively. And Belichick is highly unliekly to change his offensive philosophy that he's had for 5 decades now. Would love to be wrong on that but hard to see it.
The schedule next year is legitimately difficult. We could theoretically improve a ton all over the field on both sides of the ball, and still be a 6 or 7 win team. And unless we change our offensive schematics, it's hard to see us even improving that much. If we go 4-8 this year and then 6-6 or- even being more charitable, 7-5 next year- I have no idea how anyone could see this whole experiment being anything other than a failure when other programs (such as the one that just kicked our ass this past weekend) are making immediate turnarounds in year 1.
I think one of the most alarming aspects of the situation is Belichick’s game management.
I’m not confident that they will be able to fix the offensive scheme over the off-season with a new OC/QB or that Lombardi is going to magically figure out how to scout the transfer portal, but those are things you can at least hold out some hope for. Belichick looking lost on the sidelines and messing up game management decisions makes you wonder if he’s just lost his touch in that regard. It has looked very Mack like. The TO at the very end of the game when the score was out of reach to let Wake score another TD is an example. It’s like when Grandpa starts getting unpredictable and you have to take away the car keys.
I’m not confident that they will be able to fix the offensive scheme over the off-season with a new OC/QB or that Lombardi is going to magically figure out how to scout the transfer portal, but those are things you can at least hold out some hope for. Belichick looking lost on the sidelines and messing up game management decisions makes you wonder if he’s just lost his touch in that regard. It has looked very Mack like. The TO at the very end of the game when the score was out of reach to let Wake score another TD is an example. It’s like when Grandpa starts getting unpredictable and you have to take away the car keys.
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If you are talking about that thread started by TrueNorthTarHeel- and it seems like you are- then everyone else should know that that is the poster formerly known as ticket2ride who completely disappeared for the first month of the season after spending all offseason blowing a gasket at any posters who dared question the Belichick hire. He has now resurfaced with a new username after we won two games against FCS-level opposition and spent all of Saturday night on the board calling everyone else a bunch of "Wake Forest riders" and "Deacon dick riders." His posts are so nonsensically over the top that several folks have taken to assuming that he is Michael Lombardi himself posting screed after screed.
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I agree that BB is an all-time defensive genius. But that was in the NFL. I don't believe he understands enough about the college game for that genius to apply in this situation. I wonder if he even knows who Hal Mumme is?
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Oh yeah, I don't disagree at all. I think he was completely unprepared for the college game and I think his arrogance and hubris won't allow him to even try to understand it. We're going t keep trying to shove square pegs into round holes over and over and over because we have a staff that mistakenly believes that because they've won in the NFL that they can automatically do so against all of the rubes and morons who must comprise the college coaching ranks.
These guys have lost games to Scott Frost, Justin Wilcox, Tony Elliott, and now Jake Dickert this year. They're probably going to lose to Manny Diaz and Dave Doeren.
Ok. He posted a timeline with facts. Do you dispute them? If you want to focus on one how about Chandler Morris? It was reported ML said he was not good enough. ML was not hired yet according to that timeline. If he is making things up I would love to know that. So far nobody disputes the info?@
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The problems that I have with all of the whining, goalpost-shifting, and excuse-making about the timing of Belichick's hire as it pertains to the transfer portal are as follows:
1. Scott Frost and Jake Dickert were hired at essentially the exact same time as Belichick, inherited much worst roster situations than did Belichick, and yet somehow, someway were still able to assemble teams this year that brutally kicked the ever loving shit out of us.
2. Virginia went 3-9. 3-9. and 5-7 in their first three years under Tony Elliott and he was a dead man walking this season. They have had a *much* worse roster over the last 3 years than UNC, and UNC beat them like rented mules last year in 2024. Yet this offseason, they completely retooled their roster with a head coach essentially facing lameduck status. They are a win away from the ACC title game, and two wins away from the College Football Playoff, mostly with a bunch of guys who played at the likes of NC Central, North Texas, New Mexico, Fresno State, Elon, UNLV, Morgan State, UCF, and UAB last season.
3. Nobody forced Belichick and Lombardi to run off guys like Beau Atkinson, Jacolby Criswell, Travis Shaw, and other conttibutors from Mack Brown 2.0.
4. Nobody forced Belichick and Lombardi to essentially turn over the majority of the roster *AFTER SPRING PRACTICE*.
5. Nobody forced Belichick and Lombardi to run off Ryan Browne.
6. Nobody is forcing Belichick and Lombardi to continue to play Gio Lopez in a lost season when we have two young studs waiting in the wings.
7. Nobody forced Belichick and Lombardi to come in and fire quite literally the entire player personnel and recruiting support staffs on day 1 without having their own people lined up and ready to go.
1. Scott Frost and Jake Dickert were hired at essentially the exact same time as Belichick, inherited much worst roster situations than did Belichick, and yet somehow, someway were still able to assemble teams this year that brutally kicked the ever loving shit out of us.
2. Virginia went 3-9. 3-9. and 5-7 in their first three years under Tony Elliott and he was a dead man walking this season. They have had a *much* worse roster over the last 3 years than UNC, and UNC beat them like rented mules last year in 2024. Yet this offseason, they completely retooled their roster with a head coach essentially facing lameduck status. They are a win away from the ACC title game, and two wins away from the College Football Playoff, mostly with a bunch of guys who played at the likes of NC Central, North Texas, New Mexico, Fresno State, Elon, UNLV, Morgan State, UCF, and UAB last season.
3. Nobody forced Belichick and Lombardi to run off guys like Beau Atkinson, Jacolby Criswell, Travis Shaw, and other conttibutors from Mack Brown 2.0.
4. Nobody forced Belichick and Lombardi to essentially turn over the majority of the roster *AFTER SPRING PRACTICE*.
5. Nobody forced Belichick and Lombardi to run off Ryan Browne.
6. Nobody is forcing Belichick and Lombardi to continue to play Gio Lopez in a lost season when we have two young studs waiting in the wings.
7. Nobody forced Belichick and Lombardi to come in and fire quite literally the entire player personnel and recruiting support staffs on day 1 without having their own people lined up and ready to go.
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I think you remain way too focused on what "the media" is reporting/has reported and not focused enough on looking at the actual product on the field. I don't care about Chandler Morris or who reported what. I care that we had a better quarterback on the roster in Jacolby Criswell and ran him off, then paid Ryan Browne to come here for spring ball before running him off as well, then took a G5-level quarterback who is not even remotely serviceable at this level (nor do we even do anything whatsoever schematically to try to help him), and now we have two games left in a completely lost season where we have at least 2 young quarterbacks on the roster whom we could play while still preserving their redshirts and we refuse to do so.
You seem to have a lot of dismay at what you consider to be unfair, inaccurate, or agenda-driven media. I have a lot of dismay at what I consider to be arrogance and hubris and complete disinterest in doing anything different to try to change things up on the part of our staff that is directly leading to one of the most miserable UNC football seasons any of us have ever seen. I think that's a big reason why you and I don't see eye to eye on this whole thread topic- I think we are directing our ire and casting blame at two completely different things.
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Wait how did people already figure out that it's ticket2ride returned? If that's true then all I can say is:
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The most glaring thing to me, talking about next season, is that 10 games into *this* disaster of a season we are still trotting out Gio Lopez even though both Newkirk and Baker could play and still preserve their redshirt eligibility. If neither of those guys are somehow better options than Gio Lopez now, how in the world are we supposed to trust that the staff is going to think they are the answer next year? There is quite literally no downside to have tried to get either or both of them some snaps and we've refused to do so. Not only will we probably lose at least one to the portal, but now we're either going to have to trot one of them out next year in the opener in Dublin having never taken a single live collegiate snap OR we are going to have to believe that Big Brain Lombardi is going to somehow magically develop an ability to scout a better quarterback from the portal. Not great either way!
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the billy the $10+ mil a yr goat slobbers are not interested in facts...just excuses. its just what coach slobbers do until the coaches are fired
And yet it is you questioning the messenger here. There was a lot of talk about Morris and Lombardi etc. I simply pointed out the timeline doesn't support that narrative. Nothing more. Out.