UNC Football Catch-all | Bill Belichick Era underway

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Here's where I am at this point: Tell BB that his hooker can no longer be on the field. Tweet about Drake Maye's accomplishments every damn day.
If Bill doesn't like it, he can pack up his crap and leave. Fuck it.
That is basically what UNC told him today and out goes the Maye tweet at 9:56 AM. Unfortunately, that is just symptomatic of much bigger issues between the school and coach.

Now that the aroused Ram is on board, it is time to jettison Bill and start all over.
 
We need to have Urban Meyer come consult on the ol’ “I recently discovered an unforeseen health issue that will conveniently causes me to not be able to coach my flailing football team”
 
I'll be pretty danged surprised if Belichick isn't given 3 years to do whatever he's going to do, unless he decides to walk away from the entire situation (including his guaranteed contract).

I don't think you're going to see the PTB admit that they made a mistake in hiring Belichick because of the way his hiring went down. It's one thing if a chancellor/president of a university can fire the AD and then the football coach and tie everything up in a neat little bow. But thanks to the very public way this hiring played out, we all know that the BOT and Chancellor had more to do with the hiring than the AD. And do you really think that Preyer/Roberts are going to admit any error by firing Belichick before the guaranteed portion of his contract runs out? I don't.
Damn that’s depressing.
 
Yikes. Not sure how he can stay another season after reading this. This is really bad. But considering how he was hired and who wanted to hire him, it's not surprising it's been a mess.

 
So fired or something else?
Like i said, I'm not sure he survives the week. Presumably either firing or negotiated resignation with buyout. No way he just quits.

 
Yikes. Not sure how he can stay another season after reading this. This is really bad. But considering how he was hired and who wanted to hire him, it's not surprising it's been a mess.

That's ugly. Wow.

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Like i said, I'm not sure he survives the week. Presumably either firing or negotiated resignation with buyout. No way he just quits.

Relevant from that link...

Last week UNC Chancellor Lee Roberts preached patience at a Board of Trustees meeting before the Clemson loss.

"It's not the kind of thing that we judge after four games or even after one season,”Roberts said. ”These things take time. We last won the conference championship in 1980, and so we have significant work to do, significant investment to make to get the program where we want it to be."

”A minimum level of patience is required for any level of future success,” said UNC-Chapel Hill Board of Trustees chair Malcolm Turner, a former athletics director at Vanderbilt. ”I appreciate the need and desire for instant gratification, but it takes time to create success."


Again, you think that sounds like a Chancellor & BOT who are going to embarrass themselves by admitting this didn't work in 1 season or less?
 
Relevant from that link...

Last week UNCchancellor Lee Roberts preached patience at a Board of Trustees meeting beforethe Clemson loss.

"It's notthe kind of thing that we judge after four games or even after one season,”Roberts said. ”These things take time. We last won the conference championshipin 1980, and so we have significant work to do, significant investment to maketo get the program where we want it to be."

”A minimum levelof patience is required for any level of future success,” said UNC-Chapel HillBoard of Trustees chair Malcolm Turner, a former athletics director atVanderbilt. ”I appreciate the need and desire for instant gratification, but ittakes time to create success."


Again, you think that sounds like a Chancellor & BOT who are going to embarrass themselves by admitting this didn't work in 1 season or less?
Yes, I read that passage.

But PR 101 is to back the coach publicly until the dam has burst. Roberts is not going to say Bill is being evaluated on a game to game basis.

But the product on the field is getting worse each week and the negative PR and insider leaks are growing by the minute. Bill may survive it, but I do not think that is a forgone conclusion at this point.

And it certainly doesn't help his case to see what UCLA did to Penn State after firing its coach.
 
Relevant from that link...

Last week UNC Chancellor Lee Roberts preached patience at a Board of Trustees meeting before the Clemson loss.

"It's not the kind of thing that we judge after four games or even after one season,”Roberts said. ”These things take time. We last won the conference championship in 1980, and so we have significant work to do, significant investment to make to get the program where we want it to be."

”A minimum level of patience is required for any level of future success,” said UNC-Chapel Hill Board of Trustees chair Malcolm Turner, a former athletics director at Vanderbilt. ”I appreciate the need and desire for instant gratification, but it takes time to create success."


Again, you think that sounds like a Chancellor & BOT who are going to embarrass themselves by admitting this didn't work in 1 season or less?
Especially considering their political ties
 
Especially considering their political ties
Have you ever noticed how Republicans (especially MAGA republicans) are the most-backstabbing group of people? Trump world is full of backstabbers and shit-talkers. No one likes anyone over there.

Just because they share an R doesn't mean they like each other or see the things the same way.

I'd trust a Republican chancellor to fire the coach sooner than a Democrat chancellor (although I really don't think national politics figures into these things).

The far bigger obstacle is accepting you made a mistake and trying to fix it. The aroused ram took awhile to get there, but he's there now.
 
The Athletic published an article about this, but it’s behind a paywall so I will post some excerpts…

Unfortunately for UNC and Bill Belichick, ‘patience’ is no longer needed to win in CFB​


Much of the appeal of hiring Belichick is hoping he brings with him a magnetism for players who want to learn under a coach with six Super Bowl rings. When is that magnet being activated?

Instead, the program lost many of its best players from a season ago, two of them after spring practice when defensive lineman Beau Atkinson left for Ohio State and linebacker Amare Campbell left for Penn State.

Why can Fran Brown — a first-time head coach with no experience as a coordinator — keep the top talent from a six-win team at Syracuse, add a few pieces and a quarterback from the portal and turn it into 10 wins in Year 1, but the greatest coach in the history of the sport needs time to establish his program?

How can Curt Cignetti take over a three-win team, import a dozen transfers from a Sun Belt champion and carry Big Ten doormat Indiana into the College Football Playoff in Year 1?

But Belichick’s team can’t stay within three touchdowns of fellow first-year coach Scott Frost, who’s been out of college football since 2022 and took over a four-win team at UCF?”

…………………

“UNC’s early struggles point to leadership from Belichick and Lombardi that shows a poor understanding of how to build a functional plan in the sport today.

The Tar Heels were a good team and OK program in Mack Brown’s second go-around. Six consecutive bowl games is hard to do anywhere. That streak is all but over.

UNC isn’t wrestling with NCAA sanctions. It doesn’t have a lack of money to spend. It doesn’t have a limit on how many players it can take in a year to repair a depleted roster.

“We’ve only been playing together two months now,” receiver Jordan Shipp said. “Not everything’s gonna be perfect.”

That’s true. But for all the complaining about UNC’s 70 new faces, it’s worth asking why the roster was hollowed out to the point 70 new players were required.

If South Carolina can keep its best players, LaNorris Sellers and Dylan Stewart, out of the portal, there’s no reason North Carolina can’t do the same.

And if the Tar Heels staff let players walk out the door and replaced them with worse talent from the portal, that’s an indictment of the staff’s ability to evaluate talent.”

…………………………

“Pleading for patience in 2025 and rebuilding with high school players is a fast track to a buyout. Even if UNC hits on high school talent that blossoms early, there’s no guarantee it can keep them if it couldn’t keep players like Campbell and Atkinson.”
 
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Yikes. Not sure how he can stay another season after reading this. This is really bad. But considering how he was hired and who wanted to hire him, it's not surprising it's been a mess.

I had to read this line twice, and i'm still not sure what to make of this anonymous commentary in contrast to other things said off the record:
WRAL talked to a source on the UNC football staff who said they did not believe the locker room was divided or that the staff was dysfunctional.

Is the premise of this article the parents' word vs this staffer's word?

Until Clemson game i would've said the defense looked better than last yr... not like a team with locker room probs, just lacking size, strength, speed, athleticism, talent and time gelling.

The offense is so bad i'd believe anything, though it is extremely easy to see the play-calling has been bad and those guys lack speed and talent.
 
Relevant from that link...

Last week UNC Chancellor Lee Roberts preached patience at a Board of Trustees meeting before the Clemson loss.

"It's not the kind of thing that we judge after four games or even after one season,”Roberts said. ”These things take time. We last won the conference championship in 1980, and so we have significant work to do, significant investment to make to get the program where we want it to be."

”A minimum level of patience is required for any level of future success,” said UNC-Chapel Hill Board of Trustees chair Malcolm Turner, a former athletics director at Vanderbilt. ”I appreciate the need and desire for instant gratification, but it takes time to create success."


Again, you think that sounds like a Chancellor & BOT who are going to embarrass themselves by admitting this didn't work in 1 season or less?
Tbf that’s before last weeks performance and the subsequent airing of grievances (i now feel dirty for defending anything about lee roberts)
Best case scenario is Roberts throws Preyer under the bus, which would be pretty easy to do given the BOG edict afterwards and how public the disastrous process was, and we work out a semi amicable parting of ways after this year with a negotiated lower buyout. Then, we actually allow our AD to hire the coach, hopefully moving in a younger direction with someone like Will Stein or Chesney
 
Yikes. Not sure how he can stay another season after reading this. This is really bad. But considering how he was hired and who wanted to hire him, it's not surprising it's been a mess.

Still not of fan of WRAL’s sports guy turning in too Woodward & Bernstein whenever there’s an issue at UNC.
 
I'll be pretty danged surprised if Belichick isn't given 3 years to do whatever he's going to do, unless he decides to walk away from the entire situation (including his guaranteed contract).

I don't think you're going to see the PTB admit that they made a mistake in hiring Belichick because of the way his hiring went down. It's one thing if a chancellor/president of a university can fire the AD and then the football coach and tie everything up in a neat little bow. But thanks to the very public way this hiring played out, we all know that the BOT and Chancellor had more to do with the hiring than the AD. And do you really think that Preyer/Roberts are going to admit any error by firing Belichick before the guaranteed portion of his contract runs out? I don't.
That's what I've been thinking - Trumpers are not the type to admit to making mistakes, instead they always just double down and dig in. If this continues to be an epic disaster for game after game - as it well might - then by next season there may be so much pressure that they can't avoid doing something, but I think they'll definitely give him at least one more season to stand grumpily on the sidelines and pretend that he knows what he's doing or gives a shit while his go-go girlfriend roams the sidelines in whatever outfit she thinks will gain her more media attention. And as I've already posted, if Davis is let go at the end of this season I don't doubt they'll try to dictate that search as well to Bubba, even though it's become painfully clear that they totally screwed the pooch on the football hire. It's what Trumpers do - often wrong, but never in doubt.
 
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