UNC Football Catch-all | Bill Belichick Era underway

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Hiring of someone new needs to be done way before late Nov to make the most of the transfer portal window... new guy needs time to assess his needs, then tamper.

So IMO you fire now or give BB til next year (with some conditions around offensive coaching and GM) unless recruiting/retention just falls off a cliff.
 
On 247, Kiawahman responded to the joint single-statement tweet with:
"Obviously, a lot of dysfunction going on in the program right now, but there are a lot of fake leaks and fake news going around the Kenan football center."

Question - aren't 247 and IC a little less plugged-in under this new regime? If true, probably same can be said for WRAL and the rest of the world.
Of course. BB has pissed off people and they are fueling an eager media. What I said yesterday and got shouted down. I say again. I don't know. But I know how the sausage is made and how easy it is for a few disgruntled insiders to manipulate willing media. I will say again. If half the Ollie stuff is true fire him now. But instead of accepting resignation it appears UNC heard enough to find the truth.
 
Of course. BB has pissed off people and they are fueling an eager media. What I said yesterday and got shouted down. I say again. I don't know. But I know how the sausage is made and how easy it is for a few disgruntled insiders to manipulate willing media. I will say again. If half the Ollie stuff is true fire him now. But instead of accepting resignation it appears UNC heard enough to find the truth.
I got the feeling user 3intheattic is also somewhat plugged in, and they're also insinuating some of the rumors are "tabloid trash".

It is a bit bizarre that all this negative info leaks out within a 48 hour period unless somebody has intentionally held back til now for the sake of trying to persuade regime change or hand-forcing on staff changes. The things the parents and others are discussing theoretically would've been very obvious all spring and summer camp. And dysfunction would've been on full display the first few games rather than waiting for the second bye.
 
Of course. BB has pissed off people and they are fueling an eager media. What I said yesterday and got shouted down. I say again. I don't know. But I know how the sausage is made and how easy it is for a few disgruntled insiders to manipulate willing media. I will say again. If half the Ollie stuff is true fire him now. But instead of accepting resignation it appears UNC heard enough to find the truth.
Or maybe the BOT and the Chancellor are just trying to save face since they are the reason Carolina is in this mess, and they are telling Bubba to say the athletic department supports Belichick.
 
If this was a business, and it kind of is these days, and Belichick was the CEO and was getting this kind of negative publicity, he would have been fired already. Only Trunp and Pubs are able to create a mess like this and still have a job.
 
Yeah, with all this negative publicity already and the team playing like crap, does anyone with a brain really think it's going to get better?
^This. What many people aren't thinking about is that if he stays at coach we're just going to continue getting clobbered in games, the locker room situation is just going to continue to get worse, and more leaks to the media are going to keep coming that will paint Belichick and the staff and the school in the worst possible light. So all this bad publicity is going to continue as long as he's the coach. So this isn't something that's going to just blow over and go away.
 
Or maybe the BOT and the Chancellor are just trying to save face since they are the reason Carolina is in this mess, and they are telling Bubba to say the athletic department supports Belichick.
What worries me is that they'll try and make Bubba and the athletic department the fall guy for their own stupidity and bad judgment. They wouldn't hesitate to throw Bubba or anyone else under the bus to save their own asses.
 
I got the feeling user 3intheattic is also somewhat plugged in, and they're also insinuating some of the rumors are "tabloid trash".

It is a bit bizarre that all this negative info leaks out within a 48 hour period unless somebody has intentionally held back til now for the sake of trying to persuade regime change or hand-forcing on staff changes. The things the parents and others are discussing theoretically would've been very obvious all spring and summer camp. And dysfunction would've been on full display the first few games rather than waiting for the second bye.
This is what I tried to say yesterday and there could still be big issues. Obviously our play is one. But it does not take a lot to dupe a willing press into running these non sourced stories. I said that yesterday and of course was shouted down. This statement is not a kiss if death. This is UNC officials, IMO, saying we will find the truth and not trust unsourced stuff. Some of what Ollie said is over too and made me think, if true, BB is having a breakdown. He supposedly offered to leave.
 
^This. What many people aren't thinking about is that if he stays at coach we're just going to continue getting clobbered in games, the locker room situation is just going to continue to get worse, and more leaks to the media are going to keep coming that will paint Belichick and the staff and the school in the worst possible light. So all this bad publicity is going to continue as long as he's the coach. So this isn't something that's going to just blow over and go away.
Exactly. The only reason they would keep him is because Roberts and the BOT can't admit they were wrong for wanting to hire him and going around Bubba to do it. The longer they keep him the longer it is going to take to get someone else in to right the ship.
 
^This. What many people aren't thinking about is that if he stays at coach we're just going to continue getting clobbered in games, the locker room situation is just going to continue to get worse, and more leaks to the media are going to keep coming that will paint Belichick and the staff and the school in the worst possible light. So all this bad publicity is going to continue as long as he's the coach. So this isn't something that's going to just blow over and go away.
Wrong. It all goes away when/if we start winning. More and more posters are saying this stuff was made up. If that is true, going to be lot of red in Raleigh media. Faces. Too bad we can't unite around that. We can still fire BB later if we want.
 
Wrong. It all goes away when/if we start winning. More and more posters are saying this stuff was made up. If that is true, going to be lot of red in Raleigh media. Faces. Too bad we can't unite around that. We can still fire BB later if we want.
No, I'm not wrong. If we continue losing - and I have yet to see any indications that we're going to turn things around anytime soon - then the bad publicity will continue. I know you want nothing more than to be right about the media people you hate being wrong on this issue, but I don't see us winning many more games this season, and it seems clear that something negative is going on with the program, even if it's not as bad as some reports today have made it out to be. This bad publicity isn't going away anytime soon for a variety of reasons.
 
Wrong. It all goes away when/if we start winning. More and more posters are saying this stuff was made up. If that is true, going to be lot of red in Raleigh media. Faces. Too bad we can't unite around that. We can still fire BB later if we want.
What has been reported by your hated local media has been proven false? I haven’t read all the local stuff today since it’s been chaos. The article yesterday seems proven true since we suspended the coach for some of the stuff reported.
 
What worries me is that they'll try and make Bubba and the athletic department the fall guy for their own stupidity and bad judgment. They wouldn't hesitate to throw Bubba or anyone else under the bus to save their own asses.
Meh, anyone that even remotely follows the team close enough to notice whether people are trying to throw Bubba under the bus would also already know all of the details of how the hire happened in the first place. That was dissected to the point that Preyer and co. will have to eat it all at some point, even if they try their hardest to deflect blame.
 
I got the feeling user 3intheattic is also somewhat plugged in, and they're also insinuating some of the rumors are "tabloid trash".

It is a bit bizarre that all this negative info leaks out within a 48 hour period unless somebody has intentionally held back til now for the sake of trying to persuade regime change or hand-forcing on staff changes. The things the parents and others are discussing theoretically would've been very obvious all spring and summer camp. And dysfunction would've been on full display the first few games rather than waiting for the second bye.
Unfortunately he has won six super bowls and was widely regarded as one of the greatest coaches in footbal history. So he's going to get the benefit of every doubt until it's blatantly obvious he's a complete failure. The levy created by all his prior success has broken and that's why it seems so sudden, even though in hidsight this was a shitshow from day one.
 
What has been reported by your hated local media has been proven false? I haven’t read all the local stuff today since it’s been chaos. The article yesterday seems proven true since we suspended the coach for some of the stuff reported.
I haven't said proven false. Others are saying it is made up. I don't know. What I have said, and intimated it yesterday, is be wary when the wral anchor breaks a story. That is laughable. I would have punched BB when Ollie teets came out but now, after Ollie said BB brought up his own buyout, there is joint release of support. Seems clear to me that UNC is prepared to rebut much of what is out there. We will see. But we should all hope wral and N&O were complicit..we can fire BB later if he doesn't win.
 
A 73 year old man deciding to date a 24 year old woman is clue number one that this guy might not be making the best decisions and is serious about anything in this point of his life.
There are so many things going on in the rumor mill and on the field which seem like legit problems, but this still doesn't seem like one of them. People are confusing correlation and causation with regard to BB's decision to date Jordon and how the team is faring. "Do you job" means do your DAY job. Player's day job is working out, eating well, studying, practicing hard. But after work they can do what they want as long as it isn't disgraceful, immoral, unethical, illegal. There is no reason that after BB's coaching day-job is over he can't spend it with a smart, confident, attractive, sexy, ex-cheerleader.
 
No, I'm not wrong. If we continue losing - and I have yet to see any indications that we're going to turn things around anytime soon - then the bad publicity will continue. I know you want nothing more than to be right about the media people you hate being wrong on this issue, but I don't see us winning many more games this season, and it seems clear that something negative is going on with the program, even if it's not as bad as some reports today have made it out to be. This bad publicity isn't going away anytime soon for a variety of reasons.
I said if when. If the media is shown to have been played, too bad we won't all be celebrating that. I said Raleigh media so desperate to get UNC they will run with anything. We will know more soon. I would love to hear from players
 
This is what I tried to say yesterday and there could still be big issues. Obviously our play is one. But it does not take a lot to dupe a willing press into running these non sourced stories. I said that yesterday and of course was shouted down. This statement is not a kiss if death. This is UNC officials, IMO, saying we will find the truth and not trust unsourced stuff. Some of what Ollie said is over too and made me think, if true, BB is having a breakdown. He supposedly offered to leave.
Why do you refer to people disagreeing with your posts as being “shouted down”?
 
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