UNC Football Catch-all | Bill Belichick Era underway

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I feel like there would be more chatter if word was actually leaking that's he leaving. Sorry for the false alarm if this turns out to be untrue.
 
I’ve been amazed reading the boards on IC and 247 since Wednesday’s Signing Day and seeing how many people are already shifting the goalposts to “well just wait til 2027! Bill’s gotta keep stacking recroots! The schedule is hard next year. This is his first real offseason!” It would be amusing if it weren’t so nauseating. At this point maybe we’ll be good in football by 2040.
 
Man, if he ends up at Virginia Tech….
This guy does not even know Baker committed to mack brown in 2023 not to BB.

As for gause I had high hopes. We averaged 105 yards a game and 3.7 ypc. Abysmal and yes, the oLine was huge problem. Our running game git a pass with everyone focused on Gio. We need a back with breakaway speed.
 
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This guy does not even know Baker committed to mack brown in 2023 not the BB.
Eh, seems like a distinction without a difference, IMO. We (UNC) made a huge deal out of Baker “recommitting” or “remaining committed” to UNC and trotted him out to midcourt with Belichick at a basketball game at the Smith Center last December as the first prized recruiting win of Belichick’s tenure. If we lose a hometown kid because we yanked his chain, it’s going to get even harder to land good in-state quaterbacks moving forward. I was already worried about this when his dad refuted the message board rumor earlier this season that the family had asked for Bryce not to play this year. Felt like that was a sign.
 
Eh, seems like a distinction without a difference, IMO. We (UNC) made a huge deal out of Baker “recommitting” or “remaining committed” to UNC and trotted him out to midcourt with Belichick at a basketball game at the Smith Center last December as the first prized recruiting win of Belichick’s tenure. If we lose a hometown kid because we yanked his chain, it’s going to get even harder to land good in-state quaterbacks moving forward. I was already worried about this when his dad refuted the message board rumor earlier this season that the family had asked for Bryce not to play this year. Felt like that was a sign.
Well he has not decommitted. But clearly we are not going to keep newkirk also a 4'star, Baker and Burgess, who many believe is the best of the three. So when one leaves it won't be end of the world IMO. Hope he stays.
 
I have a feeling next season is going to be even worse than this season.
I would wait to see our roster.
I imagine if last March someone had said Seth Trimble would be only contributor to return not many would envision the team we have..Basketball is different but I believe we are going to do very well in the portal. Why? Because we have to uust as bball had to
 
I would wait to see our roster.
I imagine if last March someone had said Seth Trimble would be only contributor to return not many would envision the team we have..Basketball is different but I believe we are going to do very well in the portal. Why? Because we have to uust as bball had to
Sincere question...do you believe BB recognizes that he has to? I know Hubert did but im not ao sure BB recognizes the urgency.
 
I don't think that is the plan. It is counterintuitive for a 73 year old but they are attempting to build a foundation through recruiting. ESPN had our class ranked 12th. We have some young stud QBs. We definitely have big holes to plug in portal. But it's clear they want to bring in this class and keep them around. BTW I don't think it will be 70 this year but still a lot. I don't know if this approach will work or not. But if they can assemble this class after 4-8 and all that comes with it if we can show improvement on field I could see another really strong class stacked on this one.
How much of our class being ranked 12th is the size of the class?

In the article on GoHeels, the headline is 12th ranked class. In the article itself it’s ranked 17th by both 247 and On3/Rivals and Top 20 by “all rating services.”

So, is the class 12th, 17th, or 20th?

How many of the signees from 2025 will be on the team in Ireland this next season?

Are we holding onto signees?
 
Sincere question...do you believe BB recognizes that he has to? I know Hubert did but im not ao sure BB recognizes the urgency.
I do. I know others disagree but I think he wants to get this done. CFord probably knows this but we almost flipped a 5:star from Michigan on Tuesday. Walker from SC. IC said BB worked him all day by phone. To me that is a guy engaged.
 
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Well he has not decommitted. But clearly we are not going to keep newkirk also a 4'star, Baker and Burgess, who many believe is the best of the three. So when one leaves it won't be end of the world IMO. Hope he stays.
Yeah, I hear you. You’re probably right that it would not be the end of the world, but I do think it would be a pretty difficult look for an in-state prized quarterback recruit to have gotten so completely passed over that he was not deemed worthy of a single solitary snap in a season where the offense was horrific and the starting quarterback was really bad. I just think that the optics of Baker not getting a single snap and subsequently transferring out would make it unnecessarily harder on the staff the next time they want to land an in-state quarterback. It reminds me of back when Larry Fedora and his staff almost royally screwed themselves for how they treated Marquise Williams when they first got here. They essentially told him he wasn’t good enough to ever play for them. Quise almost transferred, and the only thing that kept him around was Bryn Renner’s season ending injury in 2013 at State forced the staff’s hand.
 

Someone else, I think Cal, explained this I believe on this thread. Maybe he can chime in. I think the size matters (lol) but this class has a lot of difference makers at key positions. So I would venture it is still a top 20 or so class if cut by a third, but that is a guess.
It’s definitely anyone’s guess at this point anymore, I agree, but Don Callahan who is one of the foremost experts on recruiting in North Carolina said that this class has a lot of solid players but very few, if any, difference makers. He said that obviously if Julian Walker had committed that would have been a difference maker. Don knows his stuff.

Even as much of a curmudgeon as I am about this whole Belichick thing, even I recognize that no matter what, it’s a very solid recruiting class and it is commendable that it was put together under the circumstances in which we were so awful on the field this season. I think where I differ from many more optimistic folks, though, is that I do not put any stock into recruiting anymore. The Mack Brown 2.0 years permanently disabused me of that, along with the transactional nature of the whole recruiting game these days. I have most of the exact same complaints about the Bill Belichick coaching staff as I do the Mack Brown 2.0 coaching staff in terms of being poor at game planning, game management, motivating and discipline. So until or unless those areas do a complete 180 on the field, it’s just really difficult for me to find any optimism in us trying to hang another banner for lofty recruiting rankings on signing day. I am in pure, unadulterated, “shut up and show me” mode.
 
I’m still curious how much the huge size of the class influences the class ranking.
It definitely does influence the class ranking to a certain extent, no doubt about it, but in the aggregate I do think this is a pretty solid recruiting class, even by the typical UNC standards. I think by average star rating we are something in the mid 20s? Somebody can correct me if that’s wrong.

I think Don said that this class would probably be the third or fourth overall best recruiting class in the modern recruiting era since 1999 for UNC. I think Butch Davis had two classes and Mack Brown 2.0 had one class that would have been considered better.
 
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