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I think NIL has changed the dynamics...staying, making a million dollars, and keeping close to his family has to be a strong option for young men (and their parents) who are, after all, only 19.

Would not be surprised at all if Powell stayed.
 
Just think how the team is going to be next season without RJ, Powell Jackson and possibly Trimble, but with Hubert still as the coach.
 
TarSpiel said:
I think NIL has changed the dynamics...staying, making a million dollars, and keeping close to his family has to be a strong option for young men (and their parents) who are, after all, only 19.

Would not be surprised at all if Powell stayed.
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The big thing about getting to the pros for players likely to stay in the league for a good while isn't the first contract, it's getting the clock started on the second contract that offers a lot more money.

If Powell is reasonably secure that he's likely a long-time NBA player, then getting to the league and starting the clock on his second deal is likely a bigger deal than the money made next year.
 
TarSpiel said:
You have no reason to even suspect that Trimble won't be here, so just knock it off with your boo-hooing.
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You don't think he could transfer to a team that has a better shot at winning? RJ talked him into staying and he isn't going to be there amymore.
 
CarolinaFever said:
You don't think he could transfer to a team that has a better shot at winning? RJ talked him into staying and he isn't going to be there amymore.
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I think there is absolutely no reason at all to think that he's leaving. His family loves Carolina, he's close with JWash, James Brown and his family, and the whole Carolina community.

I think freaking out that he might leave to somewhere where he "has a better shot of winning" is just nuts.

Cadeau, Trimble, Tyson, Lubin, JWash, James Brown, possibly Powell, possibly Caleb Wilson, our new guards, and a couple of solid portal additions could be a fantastic lineup.
 
SnoopRob said:
The big thing about getting to the pros for players likely to stay in the league for a good while isn't the first contract, it's getting the clock started on the second contract that offers a lot more money.

If Powell is reasonably secure that he's likely a long-time NBA player, then getting to the league and starting the clock on his second deal is likely a bigger deal than the money made next year.
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All true, but different families have different ways they weigh the various factors.

If my son could make 1 million and stay near home and family and work on his education, as opposed to travelling around the country in the company of older men and all the hookers and blow, I'd 100% hope he'd stay and develop more physically and emotionally first. It would have been different before NIL...but as it is now the money he could make as a sophomore in college could buy him a home that would excuse him from mortgage or rent payments for the rest of his life. The only thing that would move the needle the other way is if staying could potentially *hurt* his NBA prospects...which who knows, in Powell's case it might.
 
SnoopRob said:
The big thing about getting to the pros for players likely to stay in the league for a good while isn't the first contract, it's getting the clock started on the second contract that offers a lot more money.

If Powell is reasonably secure that he's likely a long-time NBA player, then getting to the league and starting the clock on his second deal is likely a bigger deal than the money made next year.
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This right here.
 
TarSpiel said:
All true, but different families have different ways they weigh the various factors.

If my son could make 1 million and stay near home and family and work on his education, as opposed to travelling around the country in the company of older men and all the hookers and blow, I'd 100% hope he'd stay and develop more physically and emotionally first. It would have been different before NIL...but as it is now the money he could make as a sophomore in college could buy him a home that would excuse him from mortgage or rent payments for the rest of his life. The only thing that would move the needle the other way is if staying could potentially *hurt* his NBA prospects...which who knows, in Powell's case it might.
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I'd have a very hard time telling my son to not go ahead and achieve a goal that is most likely the biggest goal of his life, to date. Especially, given that he can go back to school later on, and how organizations now have mentoring "programs" for their players (mostly younger ones).
 
Tough to suss out an 18 year-old's goals as well as separate them from a parent's wishes/goals. Is it money? Is it fame? Is it the love of fandom? Is it playing for The Lakers? Or The Tar Heels? Lots of factors there...
 
UNCMSinLS said:
Honestly, I think the upside potential for Powell may be higher than Jackson. I've been impressed with Drake's feel as a freshman for the game on both ends of the court. Plus, his vertical leaping ability must be in the top handful in the country. In the old days, if he stayed and mastered his shot & drive to the basket, he'd be a threat for All-American in a year or two. Jackson's offensive development is clearly higher than Powell's now; but, I'm not sure that will be the case in five years.
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There would be a lot of pressure for Powell to improve offensively if he returns

Agree, his feel for the game overall makes me think his floor in the league will be pretty high

Whether Ian’s shot translates to the league or not will be the question. I think more teams are willing to take that chance now
 
donbosco said:
Tough to suss out an 18 year-old's goals as well as separate them from a parent's wishes/goals. Is it money? Is it fame? Is it the love of fandom? Is it playing for The Lakers? Or The Tar Heels? Lots of factors there...
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So I decided that 20 years from now I did not want to second guess
"what if I played one more year at Carolina-and won a Natty?" I mean I am going to have nice NBA career either way..
My dream donbosco lol
 
TarSpiel said:
I think there is absolutely no reason at all to think that he's leaving. His family loves Carolina, he's close with JWash, James Brown and his family, and the whole Carolina community.

I think freaking out that he might leave to somewhere where he "has a better shot of winning" is just nuts.

Cadeau, Trimble, Tyson, Lubin, JWash, James Brown, possibly Powell, possibly Caleb Wilson, our new guards, and a couple of solid portal additions could be a fantastic lineup.
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Trimble already entered the transfer portal once and had to get talked into returning. I have nothing against a player doing what they feel is best for their career so no hard feelings from me either way, but it’s not nuts to think there’s a chance he could transfer when you’re trying to project next season’s roster.
 
Peppers49 said:
Trimble already entered the transfer portal once and had to get talked into returning. I have nothing against a player doing what they feel is best for their career so no hard feelings from me either way, but it’s not nuts to think there’s a chance he could transfer when you’re trying to project next season’s roster.
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I think we will pay him
 
mpaer said:
I think we will pay him
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I hope so. He’s a great player and could play an even bigger role next season imo. I just wouldn’t be surprised if we lost at least one key player to the portal in the off-season, and I don’t think it’s crazy to speculate that it could be Trimble.
 
Peppers49 said:
I hope so. He’s a great player and could play an even bigger role next season imo. I just wouldn’t be surprised if we lost at least one key player to the portal in the off-season, and I don’t think it’s crazy to speculate that it could be Trimble.
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Well, I'm not sure there would be demand for anyone else, so if someone leaves, will be him. Maybe Powell enters the portal but that strikes me as not that likely unless he's really pissed at Hubert. Maybe Brown.

But nobody is going after Tyson, Lubin, Withers (if he has eligibility, about which I do not care), or JWash. RJ is out of eligibility. Cadeau probably stays. Jackson is gone. So if anyone leaves, seems like Trimble would be the guy.
 
superrific said:
I have no idea if both will go, and I'm expecting that they will.

But that bit about the NBA not drafting on college production -- I'm not sure if that's accurate any more. It definitely was the case. But now the salary cap restrictions are getting tighter, so we're going to see more NFL and MLB style considerations: you've got a few years with a player before he becomes really expensive, so developmental prospects are a luxury that most teams will avoid. Look at Golden State and Kuminga. He's going to be an RFA. He will probably get at least $15M if not much more. He's not going to be a bargain any more, that's for sure. And what has GS gotten out of him? He's in his fourth year and he's a decent player, but he's not yet a finished product.
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You make a very valid point, but I think most NBA FOs have not adjusted, They're still swinging for the fences on potential and high ceiling guys, particularly in the lottery.
 
CRHeel94 said:
You make a very valid point, but I think most NBA FOs have not adjusted, They're still swinging for the fences on potential and high ceiling guys, particularly in the lottery.
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Well, I don't know if we have enough data. The second apron's full effects have only taken effect this year. I wouldn't expect the top 5 picks to change that much. It would be the picks lower down.
 
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