United Healthcare CEO shot and killed | 1st Degree murder charges ordered dropped

So, again, fusing vertebrae is often a last resort. At this time, there's no reason to believe he wasn't treated in other ways prior to the surgery and he simply has chronic back issues.
to the contrary, there's no reason to believe that his treatment wasn't mishandled because it so, so often is in this country.

he's young and appears to be pretty physically fit/robust.
 
to the contrary, there's no reason to believe that his treatment wasn't mishandled because it so, so often is in this country.

he's young and appears to be pretty physically fit/robust.
Chronic back problems plague all types of people, even those who are otherwise healthy. He injured his back while surfing. That likely started the issue that ended with fusing vertebrae.

He may have been frustrated, but the fact that he was taking mushrooms and who knows what other drugs, probably didn't help his mental state.
 
Chronic back problems plague all types of people, even those who are otherwise healthy. He injured his back while surfing. That likely started the issue that ended with fusing vertebrae.

He may have been frustrated, but the fact that he was taking mushrooms and who knows what other drugs, probably didn't help his mental state.
I had mushrooms on my pizza last night.
 
Chronic back problems plague all types of people, even those who are otherwise healthy. He injured his back while surfing. That likely started the issue that ended with fusing vertebrae.

He may have been frustrated, but the fact that he was taking mushrooms and who knows what other drugs, probably didn't help his mental state.
just a massive lmao at you trying to blame mushrooms for this.
 
So, if the current suspect had not pulled his mask aside to flirt with the help at the youth hostel, would he have gotten away with it?
 
Luigi's fingerprints match the prints lifted from the water bottle and protein bar wrapper near the scene of the murder. Puts him at the scene.
 
I had the surgery he has had, and many times. I have had two fusions and two artificial discs.... all at different levels. and had an incredibly frustrating and anger at the insurance company to pay for the artificial ones, that I am still fighting. was in horrible pain, only those who have had disc issues would understand.

but never had a thought to go murder someone over it, ever. I'm not a psychopath
 
Narcotics work for back pain, but sometimes the cure is worse than the disease...
A number of years ago I was involved in a case where a woman suffered a paralysis injury in a car accident, but she still had upper extremity function, i.e. she was a paraplegic. However, she was in severe pain and after a while her doctor's recommended solution was to surgically sever her spinal cord in her neck to make her a quadriplegic. Fortunately, her attorney forced her to go to the Mayo Clinic in the US (she was a foreign national) who diagnosed her with addiction to her opioids. They weened her of the dosage and cut it down to ~10%. The next time I meet with her, she'd gone to get her driver's license that day (and then I paid her $6m to settle her case against my insured). I don't know which made her happier, the money or the driver's license.
 
Feel I need to preface this by saying I don't believe that the CEO should've died, so I'm not celebrating it.

However, Vin Gupta has lost the plot. Save your outrage for "false equivalency" and speak to the root cause of the outrage and indifference online or simply don't say anything at all.

 
Gupta is right but not for the reasons he thinks. There is no moral equivalence between someone who kills one man and someone who kills thousands through lack of care/denial of care.
Maybe they should have taken that step back long ago. Outrage for healthcare cost isn't the flavor of the month, it has been building as long as I can remember.
 
Listened to a Mark Cuban interview this morning where he discussed the Healthcare industry and insurance. Pretty interesting.
 
That has to be the most fucked up medical rec I've heard, at least on the surface. Lady's pain likely had a significant phantom component to begin with, so there's a significant possibility the procedure not only eliminates arm function, but doesn't help the pain much.
She lived in Canada/was a Canadian and it was probably almost 25 years ago. Our understanding of chronic pain, opioids and paraplegics was not what it is today.
 
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