United Healthcare CEO shot and killed

superrific said:
That was not the issue I would have guessed to be your turning point. Personally, I'm more offended by torture. I doubt you are going to be writing a brief on that any time soon, but just saying.

I don't see the death penalty as about authoritarianism. I'm not sure the Soviet Union had a death penalty outside the military context. They didn't need one -- they just sent everyone to the gulag. I see authoritarianism as about due process.

I also don't see the death penalty as an important issue for me. In many ways, it feels like a trap. It's one of those issues where liberals are out of step with the population. We are going to do some things that don't have majority support; is this how we want to spend our political capital? What Zeldin just did at EPA will kill way more Americans than the death penalty ever could. Global warming will be the biggest killer in the history of the species.

I would easily trade a world without death penalty and a 2 degree rise in temps for one with death penalty and a 0.5 degree rise in temps.
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evangelical = baptist
 
evrheel said:
evangelical = baptist
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Oh that it were so simple. Not all Baptists are evangelical. I think the current evangelical movement is led more by these nondenominational prosperity gospel churches with no denominational infrastructure, with the only oversight being a hand-selected board who are in lockstep with the founder/preacher. The thing that separated Baptists from other mainline Protestant denominations was always more about governance than theology.
 
farce© said:
Oh that it were so simple. Not all Baptists are evangelical. I think the current evangelical movement is led more by these nondenominational prosperity gospel churches with no denominational infrastructure, with the only oversight being a hand-selected board who are in lockstep with the founder/preacher. The thing that separated Baptists from other mainline Protestant denominations was always more about governance than theology.
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Didn't say all baptists are evangelicals though most Baptists are considered to be evangelical, though their beliefs can vary due to the congregational governance system that gives autonomy to individual local Baptist churches.
 
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