United Healthcare CEO shot and killed

JCTarheel82 said:
It's not  the reason but a piece of the puzzle, imo. That's why I started my post with "in addition to...".
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I guess we don't know for sure but I'm just not seeing it. Seems like on a percentage basis there would be a roughly equal number of white Americans and black Americans that are not healthcare executives so any hesitancy to report a murder of those same healthcare executives for that reason should be roughly equal as well.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
Is that really true? I could think of a couple other explanations for not wanting to call law enforcement than black people not trusting them. I suspect there are a number of different reasons for a number of different people as opposed to a blanket black people don't trust law enforcement. And that of course ignores the majority of black people that would have turned this murderer in according to this poll.
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lmao.

news.gallup.com

Black Americans Less Confident, Satisfied With Local Police

Black Americans continue to report less favorable attitudes than White adults toward policing, and interest in major police reform has also been steadily higher among Black adults.
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www.pewresearch.org

10 things we know about race and policing in the U.S.

Black adults are about five times as likely as whites to say they’ve been unfairly stopped by police because of their race or ethnicity.
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Study reveals Black people have less trust in the police – The Justice Gap

www.thejusticegap.com www.thejusticegap.com

www.pbs.org

Two-thirds of black Americans don’t trust the police to treat them equally. Most white Americans do.

Community trust in law enforcement has eroded somewhat over the past few years, as police-involved killings of black people have come to national attention, prompting pain and outrage. The latest PBS NewsHour-NPR-Marist poll explores Americans' attitudes about policing, race and President Donald...
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Interesting to see this discussion just days after the final admission of lying by the Duke lacrosse accuser. The way we judge everything on the basis of race is so useless. Fortunately, the American justice system is blind to emotional blackmail and ideologically motivated reasoning
 
lawtig02 said:

"Mangione faces an 11-count indictment, including one count of murder in the first-degree and two counts of murder in the second-degree in connection with the fatal shooting of Thompson on December 4, along with other weapon and forgery charges, the indictment says."
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What's the legal background here? There is a first degree murder charge and two second degree murder charges but only one murder. I assume that has something to do with other factors like using a gun or something like that. Can anyone briefly explain it?
 
gtyellowjacket said:
What's the legal background here? There is a first degree murder charge and two second degree murder charges but only one murder. I assume that has something to do with other factors like using a gun or something like that. Can anyone briefly explain it?
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This is not going to answer your question, but under New York State law, 1st degree murder is defined with a bit more specificity than in many other states. Below is a link to the defining statute. I suspect in New York that if the authorities are not sure they can shoe-horn a murder into one of the specific categories, they also charge the person with second degree murder. That there is only one first degree murder charges might mean that the state, at this point, thinks this murder may only fit into one of the specified grounds, depending on where the evidence leads. Just a guess, but maybe Section xiii, terrorism.
Link: NYS Open Legislation | NYSenate.gov
 
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gtyellowjacket said:
What's the legal background here? There is a first degree murder charge and two second degree murder charges but only one murder. I assume that has something to do with other factors like using a gun or something like that. Can anyone briefly explain it?
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I’m glad I’m not the only one that was confused. 3 counts of murder for 1 dead body??
 
“According to the Virginia Department of Wildlife Resources, black bears are found throughout most of the state and have been located in at least 92 of Virginia's 98 counties and cities

The department says that it is illegal "to cripple, harm or dislodge a bear from a tree for the intent of continuing a hunt, chase, or for the purpose of training dogs."

"The Department is not currently seeking any charges related to this incident," VDWR officials said, according to CBS affiliate WTVR.”

If it is illegal to shoot a bear in a tree, why are there no charges? A man was killed inadvertently during commission of a crime using a gun. If an innocent bystander was inadvertently killed by someone trying to rob a convenience store they sure as hell would be charged with the death. Apparently shooting a bear in a tree isn’t actually illegal. Why is the Virginia Department of Wildlife Resources so soft on crime?
 
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Nephew in-law killed a black bear in Alaska and brought back the meat and all home to AZ. 5 coolers. Lots of bear fat he swears by for cooking different things. He is a national forest district manager. Only kills what he eats so I give him a pass.
 
chrissteel said:
Agree. I saw a solid black one for the first time recently on the farm.
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It was several years ago that I learned that the coastal plains of NC within a few dozen miles of the ocean or a sound had become something of a Mecca for black bears. The endless fields of corn and other grains combined with the collapse of tobacco farming had produced the largest black bears in world. On a drive to the beach with my wife on a two lane country road, a bear ran across the road in front of our car. A very big bear. We paused arguing for a moment and I said, "Did a bear just run across the road?" My wife, equally bewildered, replied, "Yes it did!" Our completely good argument, which I swear I was winning, was completely derailed and my wife spent the rest of the drive Googling "Black Bears North Carolina." She read aloud the choicest bits including that the largest black bears in the world were to be found in Eastern NC, grown fat on the enormous amount of crop land and the mild winters that obliviated the need to hibernate. Eastern NC is apparently a 24/7/365 all you can eat buffet for black bears.
 
05C40 said:
It was several years ago that I learned that the coastal plains of NC within a few dozen miles of the ocean or a sound had become something of a Mecca for black bears. The endless fields of corn and other grains combined with the collapse of tobacco farming had produced the largest black bears in world. On a drive to the beach with my wife on a two lane country road, a bear ran across the road in front of our car. A very big bear. We paused arguing for a moment and I said, "Did a bear just run across the road?" My wife, equally bewildered, replied, "Yes it did!" Our completely good argument, which I swear I was winning, was completely derailed and my wife spent the rest of the drive Googling "Black Bears North Carolina." She read aloud the choicest bits including that the largest black bears in the world were to be found in Eastern NC, grown fat on the enormous amount of crop land and the mild winters that obliviated the need to hibernate. Eastern NC is apparently a 24/7/365 all you can eat buffet for black bears.
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It's like Vegas for black bears.

What happens in Rocky Mount stays in Rocky Mount.
 
05C40 said:
It was several years ago that I learned that the coastal plains of NC within a few dozen miles of the ocean or a sound had become something of a Mecca for black bears. The endless fields of corn and other grains combined with the collapse of tobacco farming had produced the largest black bears in world. On a drive to the beach with my wife on a two lane country road, a bear ran across the road in front of our car. A very big bear. We paused arguing for a moment and I said, "Did a bear just run across the road?" My wife, equally bewildered, replied, "Yes it did!" Our completely good argument, which I swear I was winning, was completely derailed and my wife spent the rest of the drive Googling "Black Bears North Carolina." She read aloud the choicest bits including that the largest black bears in the world were to be found in Eastern NC, grown fat on the enormous amount of crop land and the mild winters that obliviated the need to hibernate. Eastern NC is apparently a 24/7/365 all you can eat buffet for black bears.
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It certainly is. Took this pic about 7 miles from Manteo.P4142877blackbear.jpg
 
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