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I like them all. But it seems as if it’s gonna be JShap
It's reports like this about Shapiro that make me deeply worried about Michigan and Arab-American voter backlash:
Josh Shapiro's comments about Palestinians resurface amid VP speculation
Decades-old comments from Pennsylvania's governor have divided some Democrats.
www.newsweek.com
"Palestinians will not coexist peacefully," Shapiro wrote in the piece. "They do not have the capabilities to establish their own homeland and make it successful even with the aid of Israel and the United States. They are too battle-minded to be able to establish a peaceful homeland of their own."
He wrote: “Using history as precedent, peace between Arabs and Israelis is virtually impossible and will never come.” He also wrote: “Palestinians will not coexist peacefully…They do not have the capabilities to establish their own homeland and make it successful even with the aid of Israel and the United States. They are too battle-minded to be able to establish a peaceful homeland of their own.”
Shapiro today said his views have changed, but he did not specify which views or apologize.
“Governor Shapiro must not simply claim that his views have changed. He must explicitly apologize and then prove that he has changed by retracting his recent anti-Palestinian positions, pledging to protect the right of students, state employees and everyone else in Pennsylvania to protest the Gaza genocide, and calling for an end to U.S. support for the Israeli government’s war crimes.
“He must also explain exactly what he did while serving in the Israeli military, given its decades long history of committing crimes against humanity, including during the time Shapiro served.
“Only then will Governor Shapiro hope to begin regaining the full trust of all Pennsylvanians, including its Muslim, Palestinian and Arab communities.”
He noted that in May, CAIR-Pennsylvania condemned Governor Shapiro for his remarks in Pittsburgh in which he encouraged UPenn to remove a peaceful anti-genocide encampment.
In October of last year, CAIR’s Philadelphia and Pittsburgh chapters released a public letter to Shapiro denouncing his statements in reaction to the cycle of violence in the Middle East.
More than 60 representatives of Pennsylvania’s Muslim organizations, mosques and schools co-signed the letter, which criticized Governor Shapiro’s disregard for his Palestinian-American constituents who have lost family members or are concerned for their safety due to Israel’s indiscriminate attacks against civilian areas.
CAIR’s mission is to protect civil rights, enhance understanding of Islam, promote justice, and empower American Muslims.
Shapiro order on ‘scandalous’ conduct amid Gaza protests raises alarm
Critics say the Pennsylvania governor’s order, which applies to state employees, is subjective and could curtail free speech.
HARRISBURG — Amid protests over the war in Gaza, Gov. Josh Shapiro has quietly revised his administration’s code of conduct to bar state employees from engaging in “scandalous or disgraceful” behavior — actions that could lead to discipline or termination, Spotlight PA has learned.
The vaguely worded update, which went into effect last week without the public fanfare of some executive orders, is raising alarm among First Amendment advocates concerned that it could be used to unconstitutionally curtail free speech.
It has also heightened fears among pro-Palestinian and Muslim American groups that employees who express opinions that differ from the Democratic governor’s stance on the war could be unfairly punished.
We need all Democrats to vote in that state and I think we win PA and Michigan with either of Walz or Kelly.
Following up to add that I don't vouch for any side in the above reports. I just want to win Michigan.
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I've been using most of my free time to work on this site so I haven't dug deep into any stories. I figured with the VP, I'll just wait until whoever is selected. But, from a birds eye view of the VP storyline, the Shapiro stuff worries me a little. Like a 2/10 whereas everyone else is at 0/10. I know nothing about him other than a few clips where he seems very well spoken and intelligent, so that's awesome.It's reports like this about Shapiro that make me deeply worried about Michigan and Arab-American voter backlash:
Josh Shapiro's comments about Palestinians resurface amid VP speculation
Decades-old comments from Pennsylvania's governor have divided some Democrats.
"Palestinians will not coexist peacefully," Shapiro wrote in the piece. "They do not have the capabilities to establish their own homeland and make it successful even with the aid of Israel and the United States. They are too battle-minded to be able to establish a peaceful homeland of their own."
He wrote: “Using history as precedent, peace between Arabs and Israelis is virtually impossible and will never come.” He also wrote: “Palestinians will not coexist peacefully…They do not have the capabilities to establish their own homeland and make it successful even with the aid of Israel and the United States. They are too battle-minded to be able to establish a peaceful homeland of their own.”
Shapiro today said his views have changed, but he did not specify which views or apologize.
“Governor Shapiro must not simply claim that his views have changed. He must explicitly apologize and then prove that he has changed by retracting his recent anti-Palestinian positions, pledging to protect the right of students, state employees and everyone else in Pennsylvania to protest the Gaza genocide, and calling for an end to U.S. support for the Israeli government’s war crimes.
“He must also explain exactly what he did while serving in the Israeli military, given its decades long history of committing crimes against humanity, including during the time Shapiro served.
“Only then will Governor Shapiro hope to begin regaining the full trust of all Pennsylvanians, including its Muslim, Palestinian and Arab communities.”
He noted that in May, CAIR-Pennsylvania condemned Governor Shapiro for his remarks in Pittsburgh in which he encouraged UPenn to remove a peaceful anti-genocide encampment.
In October of last year, CAIR’s Philadelphia and Pittsburgh chapters released a public letter to Shapiro denouncing his statements in reaction to the cycle of violence in the Middle East.
More than 60 representatives of Pennsylvania’s Muslim organizations, mosques and schools co-signed the letter, which criticized Governor Shapiro’s disregard for his Palestinian-American constituents who have lost family members or are concerned for their safety due to Israel’s indiscriminate attacks against civilian areas.
CAIR’s mission is to protect civil rights, enhance understanding of Islam, promote justice, and empower American Muslims.
Shapiro order on ‘scandalous’ conduct amid Gaza protests raises alarm
Critics say the Pennsylvania governor’s order, which applies to state employees, is subjective and could curtail free speech.www.spotlightpa.org
HARRISBURG — Amid protests over the war in Gaza, Gov. Josh Shapiro has quietly revised his administration’s code of conduct to bar state employees from engaging in “scandalous or disgraceful” behavior — actions that could lead to discipline or termination, Spotlight PA has learned.
The vaguely worded update, which went into effect last week without the public fanfare of some executive orders, is raising alarm among First Amendment advocates concerned that it could be used to unconstitutionally curtail free speech.
It has also heightened fears among pro-Palestinian and Muslim American groups that employees who express opinions that differ from the Democratic governor’s stance on the war could be unfairly punished.
We need all Democrats to vote in that state and I think we win PA and Michigan with either of Walz or Kelly.
Following up to add that I don't vouch for any side in the above reports. I just want to win Michigan.
Just uhh.. man I hope Harris continues the momentum.
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If Trump loses this time, hopefully he just gets out of politics other than occasionally talking some trash on social media. As a conservative, I've had enough of him.
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He has to stay in the limelight to run the grift that finances his lawyers. I suspect he will run till he dies because he needs the RNC purse to pay his legal fees.
Yet, IIRC, you’re not voting for the opponent who can beat Trump, Kamala Harris.
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I read that Pete and Chasten live in northern Michigan now. Traverse City to be precise. It is Chasten’s home town and allows them to be close to Chasten’s family which is helpful with a small child and Pete’s travel schedule. He voted in Michigan in 2022.
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I hope there are many millions of conservatives just like you. It would be nice to go back to considering 2 legitimate alternatives. 2012 seems like 50 years ago.
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We’ve already seen what happens when Trump loses. There’s no reason to think this time would be any different than last time. He’s been given multiple opportunities to say that he’ll accept the election results in November, and he has refused to commit to do so. He will undoubtedly claim that he won—even if he loses. He can’t fathom of a world in which he actually loses.
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It'll be a little bit different in that the Democrats have control over most of the government this time around.
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I’m not convinced that matters much.
Trump’s narcissism is such that he’ll command his followers to revolt and potentially die for him. He simply will not ever concede or admit defeat.
I don’t think the threat of prison will temper him. He knows he has better-than-even odds that he’ll catch a favorable judge or will be able to delay/appeal/run out the clock till he dies.
He’s a spiteful, hateful man. And he’d rather watch the country burn to the ground than admit he lost an election.
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IIF it appears that Harris has won, the likely battleground is small country election boards that will refuse to certify results even when Trump won their county in order to throw sand into the gears and throw the decision to the House, together with the local judges and select federal judges that the GOP has gotten efficient at forum-shopping.
