Walz — Comer Opens Congressional Investigation of Walz trips to China

Paine said:
Agreed that Kentucky is not in play, but I’m of the mind that no VP choice delivers their state. I don’t think Cooper would’ve done it here either. Beshear is able to speak to a demographic that Harris is not as well equipped to.

Shapiro speaks to the same people as Harris, IMO. Look at Beshear’s appearance in Forsyth Co, GA, for example. Dems have to stop the bleeding in rural areas to win statewide in many of these states. I think Beshear helps win over more rural voters and even some conservative leaning independents.

That’s why I’d have:

1A: Beshear
1B: Walz
2: the rest
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Those are all very good points, for sure! Will be fascinating to see who Kamala chooses. I feel like I'm going to be pretty darn happy with any one of Shapiro, Kelly, Walz, Beshear.
 
If Pete is not the choice, I hope he gets an even better job in the next administration (if he wants). But ultimately I want him to find the best career path that would put him on the best trajectory for the Presidency someday. That would most likely mean running for statewide office somewhere.
 
CFordUNC said:
Same here. I actually like Pete a ton. He is unbelievably brilliant. I just don't trust enough of my fellow Americans to be okay with a ticket consisting of a black woman and a gay man.
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This 100%. I’d be fine with him in either spot on the ticket if not alongside Harris…I just have no faith in people who look like me to do the right thing.
 
fsclark1 said:
If Pete is not the choice, I hope he gets an even better job in the next administration (if he wants). But ultimately I want him to find the best career path that would put him on the best trajectory for the Presidency someday. That would most likely mean running for statewide office somewhere.
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Secretary of State or Defense
 
05C40 said:
Don't get it. Just getting through Basic Training bumps people from E-1 to E-2.
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I mean he is just denigrating the soldier who's task it is to keep him locked up in the fridge by saying he is a lowly E-1. Like saying rookie or boot.
 
CFordUNC said:
Same here. I actually like Pete a ton. He is unbelievably brilliant. I just don't trust enough of my fellow Americans to be okay with a ticket consisting of a black woman and a gay man.
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Exactly. Somebody else already said if Pete wasn't gay he'd already be president, and I think that's true. But he's young enough that hopefully in 2032 he'll be the nominee and the winner...
 
Rock said:
I mean he is just denigrating the soldier who's task it is to keep him locked up in the fridge by saying he is a lowly E-1. Like saying rookie or boot.
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OK, just not familiar with that particular insult.
 
HeelInTheOzarks said:
I pretty much agree here although I personally like Walz and he was the one who delivered the "weird" playbook that has the GOP reeling. There's just something super authentic about him and I think people around the country would really like him. Shapiro has more upside and I could see him actually being the president in his own right one day, but I think Walz is the right guy for right now.

But if it's Shapiro or Kelly or even Beshear I'm not going to be mad. The only one I would really disagree with would be Pete.
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Can you explain your position on Pete?

I would love for Pete to be on the ticket.

Unfortunately, I don't have confidence that our country could elect a woman and a gay dude. Just like I believe our country would struggle to vote for a two women ticket.

Personally, I have no problem voting for a woman, a black woman, a gay man, a gay woman, a black man, or any mix of these characteristics. I want the substance that they stand for. I want someone who will push for equality and maybe take on the health care and food industries.
 
UNCatTech said:
Can you explain your position on Pete?

I would love for Pete to be on the ticket.

Unfortunately, I don't have confidence that our country could elect a woman and a gay dude. Just like I believe our country would struggle to vote for a two women ticket.

Personally, I have no problem voting for a woman, a black woman, a gay man, a gay woman, a black man, or any mix of these characteristics. I want the substance that they stand for. I want someone who will push for equality and maybe take on the health care and food industries.
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I mean I was terrriffed of winning with Black-Female-from Cali I was wrong ..Amen pick the damn smart one that can talk cirles around most of them.
 
UNCatTech said:
Can you explain your position on Pete?

I would love for Pete to be on the ticket.

Unfortunately, I don't have confidence that our country could elect a woman and a gay dude. Just like I believe our country would struggle to vote for a two women ticket.

Personally, I have no problem voting for a woman, a black woman, a gay man, a gay woman, a black man, or any mix of these characteristics. I want the substance that they stand for. I want someone who will push for equality and maybe take on the health care and food industries.
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I have the same reasoning as you.

Pete also got basically zero support from nonwhite voters when he ran for president in 2020.
 
UNCatTech said:
Can you explain your position on Pete?

I would love for Pete to be on the ticket.

Unfortunately, I don't have confidence that our country could elect a woman and a gay dude. Just like I believe our country would struggle to vote for a two women ticket.

Personally, I have no problem voting for a woman, a black woman, a gay man, a gay woman, a black man, or any mix of these characteristics. I want the substance that they stand for. I want someone who will push for equality and maybe take on the health care and food industries.
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If you took all possible politicians with presidential aspirations from both sides, eliminated all baggage, and decided who would be the best person to lead our country for the next 8 years, Pete Buttigieg and Gavin Newsome would be 1a and 1b.

The sexuality issue with Pete is, unfortunately, still a thing, but is becoming a less important thing over time. I just think pairing him as a VP with a woman president would be a case of “too much” for many Americans.

But that’s actually the lesser of the issues with Pete.

The main issue is his relationship with the black community. It’s shaky at best due to some policing issues as mayor of South Bend. He was absolutely hammered on these issues during the 2020 Democratic debates, and he struggled to find a way to counter the accusations, which is unusual for him. Now, when you add in the black community’s historical social conservatism regarding same-sex relationships, it puts him in a tough spot.

The tragic irony of it is being on a ticket with Kamala Harris would go such a long way to improving his standing with the black community, and would allow him the chance to get out and speak with them. And everyone that takes the time to actually speak with Pete ends up a big fan. I remember him going on Charlemagne Tha God’s podcast and completely winning them over in 2020. But I just don’t think we have enough time to win over the black voters with Pete this cycle.

I think his next step needs to be a gubernatorial run somewhere.
 
WaynetheDrain said:
If you took all possible politicians with presidential aspirations from both sides, eliminated all baggage, and decided who would be the best person to lead our country for the next 8 years, Pete Buttigieg and Gavin Newsome would be 1a and 1b.

The sexuality issue with Pete is, unfortunately, still a thing, but is becoming a less important thing over time. I just think pairing him as a VP with a woman president would be a case of “too much” for many Americans.

But that’s actually the lesser of the issues with Pete.

The main issue is his relationship with the black community. It’s shaky at best due to some policing issues as mayor of South Bend. He was absolutely hammered on these issues during the 2020 Democratic debates, and he struggled to find a way to counter the accusations, which is unusual for him. Now, when you add in the black community’s historical social conservatism regarding same-sex relationships, it puts him in a tough spot.

The tragic irony of it is being on a ticket with Kamala Harris would go such a long way to improving his standing with the black community, and would allow him the chance to get out and speak with them. And everyone that takes the time to actually speak with Pete ends up a big fan. I remember him going on Charlemagne Tha God’s podcast and completely winning them over in 2020. But I just don’t think we have enough time to win over the black voters with Pete this cycle.

I think his next step needs to be a gubernatorial run somewhere.
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I was not aware of the PoPo issue Thanks
 
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