Walz v. Vance VP Debate - Post-Game Thread | Vance now says Trump won in 2020

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ZenMode said:
We seem to be getting to the point where the only requirement for being president is that you are not obviously mentally compromised... Though you could argue that Trump is probably mentally compromised but in a different way than Biden.

When that becomes the case, and we don't seem to have standards, much less high standards, for our candidates, truly intelligent, good, quality people may decide not to run.
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Truly good intelligent people can make more money, have less pressure and get more respect doing a hell of a lot of other things. A great deal of this came from paid lies from Republican donors starting when the Scaife Foundation and others were supporting American Spectator with large amounts of money to conduct attacks on the Clintons. I'm guessing you are aware of the birthers and Obama.
 
ZenMode said:
On that point, I would agree. if he followed through on that, it would be a legitimate threat to democracy.
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I disagree. If he acted on something like that, it is too late.
He is a threat at this moment because if given the power to do something like that, he would do it.
If I say I am going to kill you, that is a threat. It doesn’t just become a threat after I kill you.
 
ChileG said:
He said out loud that if he were VP in 2020 he would not have certified the election. This was before he was Trump’s VP candidate.
What he knows doesn’t matter compared to what we know - he is a danger to democracy.
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It seems like we need to institute more qualifications for running for the office of POTUS and VP.

That answer shows that he doesn't care about the constitution or our democracy, which should be reasons that he cannot run.

Sad that we have people in this country that have signs in front of their houses stating that they are voting for a convicted felon.
 
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Somehow I hit a button and listen to this whole spiel and to be honest it's best I've ever heard. Of course I was raised by like Don Bosco..a Daddy with 57 first cousins.
I somehow as an old sent it into "tell it" mode so my phone read me the article. Read it or listen to it but this is how we get back to who we are as far as I am concerned.
 
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