War on Universities, Lawyers & Expertise

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For what it's worth, there's a doctrine in law called cy pres, which allows a court to redirect the funds from a charitable trust or gift if the original purpose behind the bequest is no longer feasible.

For instance, giving a grant for an endowed chair in history will have its purpose frustrated if Harvard were to go belly up. That's an extreme case. I don't know trusts and estates law basically at all, so I don't know what else might qualify, but anyway . . .

I suspect Harvard is talking to many donors about releasing the money for more general purposes, or "borrowing" against the donation.
 
Healing said:
I anticipate the impending attacks on Berkeley, UM, UVA, and the like will be the inflection points. Those actions will trigger states to become legally and rhetorically openly hostile, in a manner that likely breaks through to pop culture. Hostility on wonky policy isn’t broadly attention grabbing, but when ESPN is forced to acknowledge the overlap between UM sports and Trump’s adolescent revanchism, public awareness goes to a different sphere.

Maybe.
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State AGs will get involved at that point
 
www.theguardian.com

Trump administration orders US embassies to stop student visa interviews

Directive could severely delay visa processing and hurt universities that rely on foreign students for revenue
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The Trump administration has ordered US embassies worldwide to immediately stop scheduling visa interviews for foreign students as it prepares to implement comprehensive social media screening for all international applicants.

A Tuesday state department cable instructs consular sections to pause adding “any additional student or exchange visitor (F, M, and J) visa appointment capacity until further guidance is issued” within days.


The directive, first reported by Politico and now confirmed by the Guardian, could severely delay visa processing and hurt universities – many of which Donald Trump accuses of having far-left ideologies – that rely heavily on foreign students for revenue.

“The department is conducting a review of existing operations and processes for screening and vetting of student and exchange visitor visa applicants,” the cable reads. Officials plan to issue guidance on “expanded social media vetting for all such applicants”.

The freeze is a further escalation from current screening measures, which have primarily targeted students who participated in pro-Palestinian campus protests. Since March, consular officers have been required to conduct mandatory social media reviews looking for evidence of support for “terrorist activity or a terrorist organization” which could be as broad as showing support for the Palestinian cause, according to a cable obtained by the Guardian at the time. That directive required officers to take screenshots of “potentially derogatory” content for permanent records, even if posts were later deleted.
 
altmin said:
www.theguardian.com

Trump administration orders US embassies to stop student visa interviews

Directive could severely delay visa processing and hurt universities that rely on foreign students for revenue
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

The Trump administration has ordered US embassies worldwide to immediately stop scheduling visa interviews for foreign students as it prepares to implement comprehensive social media screening for all international applicants.

A Tuesday state department cable instructs consular sections to pause adding “any additional student or exchange visitor (F, M, and J) visa appointment capacity until further guidance is issued” within days.


The directive, first reported by Politico and now confirmed by the Guardian, could severely delay visa processing and hurt universities – many of which Donald Trump accuses of having far-left ideologies – that rely heavily on foreign students for revenue.

“The department is conducting a review of existing operations and processes for screening and vetting of student and exchange visitor visa applicants,” the cable reads. Officials plan to issue guidance on “expanded social media vetting for all such applicants”.

The freeze is a further escalation from current screening measures, which have primarily targeted students who participated in pro-Palestinian campus protests. Since March, consular officers have been required to conduct mandatory social media reviews looking for evidence of support for “terrorist activity or a terrorist organization” which could be as broad as showing support for the Palestinian cause, according to a cable obtained by the Guardian at the time. That directive required officers to take screenshots of “potentially derogatory” content for permanent records, even if posts were later deleted.
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Hopefully its just days. There was severe disruption in COVID days that they were eventually able to sort out. I can't begin to imagine the level of futility;ity of new students and their parents; they have busted their ass to get into these great schools and are now in a horrible limbo.

If this somehow drags on...the impact on universities and their communities will be significant.
 
CRHeel94 said:
International students are such an easy target because they have no political cover.

I fear that Harvard is only the beginning. They're coming after the rest of the Ivy League next (well, maybe not Dartmouth).
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And not just the Ivy Leagues - any university or even small college that won't bow to their whims (such as the whims of, say, Chris Rufo) will get the same treatment. Especially schools with a liberal political tradition, which puts UNC squarely in their crosshairs as well. And the ugly truth is that most schools simply don't have the resources to fight and hold out as long as Harvard probably can. Again, this is nothing more than exactly what Viktor Orban did in Hungary - take over all educational institutions and systems in the country - public and private universities and colleges, public ed from elementary schools up - and force them to accept whatever curriculum and rules you choose to impose on them.
 
There are A LOT of smallish religious colleges that rely heavily on foreign students. Google tells me that 31% of Portland Bible College's students are international. Grinnel, while not religious, is smack in the middle of Iowa and it has 20%. Some smaller schools have fewer international students in number, but they are especially important to the finances of these schools that barely stay solvent.


I've never heard of Wingate University but it's in NC and it's #10 on the USnews list of most international students per capita.

Trump keeps fucking over his base in NC. Hey assholes, he hates you! He doesn't give a shit about you!
 
superrific said:
There are A LOT of smallish religious colleges that rely heavily on foreign students. Google tells me that 31% of Portland Bible College's students are international. Grinnel, while not religious, is smack in the middle of Iowa and it has 20%. Some smaller schools have fewer international students in number, but they are especially important to the finances of these schools that barely stay solvent.


I've never heard of Wingate University but it's in NC and it's #10 on the USnews list of most international students per capita.

Trump keeps fucking over his base in NC. Hey assholes, he hates you! He doesn't give a shit about you!
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Much of his base doesn't care about "liberal elite" college kids. Especially foreigners. Their kids are going to trade schools, which is where he plans to divert funds. He's not as dumb as he looks and sounds.
 
mynameisbond said:
Much of his base doesn't care about "liberal elite" college kids. Especially foreigners. Their kids are going to trade schools, which is where he plans to divert funds. He's not as dumb as he looks and sounds.
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Is Wingate university a liberal elite college? It's baptist affiliated according to wikipedia. And it will have massive financial problems, I'd imagine, if it couldn't get foreign students.

Wingate has degree programs like physicians' assistant, pharmacy, physical therapy, community recreation, etc. It isn't training the next generation of art history majors.

I have trouble believing that there are no MAGA pharmacists or PAs or PTs anywhere in Hendersonville, Union County or the surrounding area
 
Mulberry Heel said:
And not just the Ivy Leagues - any university or even small college that won't bow to their whims (such as the whims of, say, Chris Rufo) will get the same treatment. Especially schools with a liberal political tradition, which puts UNC squarely in their crosshairs as well. And the ugly truth is that most schools simply don't have the resources to fight and hold out as long as Harvard probably can. Again, this is nothing more than exactly what Viktor Orban did in Hungary - take over all educational institutions and systems in the country - public and private universities and colleges, public ed from elementary schools up - and force them to accept whatever curriculum and rules you choose to impose on them.
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"International students are such an easy target because they have no political cover" Well... that depends on from where they come. Some have a lot of political cover.
 
CRHeel94 said:
Hopefully its just days. There was severe disruption in COVID days that they were eventually able to sort out. I can't begin to imagine the level of futility;ity of new students and their parents; they have busted their ass to get into these great schools and are now in a horrible limbo.

If this somehow drags on...the impact on universities and their communities will be significant.
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I brought in one dual citizen in in the nick of time. We lost another one, but I think she's OK for another year at another university. It's insanity.

1. Retribution at Harvard

2. Trolling universities for fake DEI claims with no rationale reason or evidence. DEI is not a crime. I don't have time for much politics, except venting in a few venue. We're focused on getting science done, teaching physiology, biomechanics. Can the undergrads to math? Can the graduate students write a paper themselves?

3. Part of the scheme is limiting vetted, testable information, facts, principles, physical laws, appropriate measurements (science) from permeating the public sphere. Alternative realities are fact averse.

4. Smokescreens for more Bank Robberies (wealth transfer from working, middle class to top 1% in the BBB), stock market manipulation, crypto scams, emoluments.
 
tarheelbillie said:
"International students are such an easy target because they have no political cover" Well... that depends on from where they come. Some have a lot of political cover.
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We've literally had international students snatched by ICE (Proud Boyz/Orange Gestapo) while on campus. No explantion - I suspect most are SM links that belong to someone else. It's obscene.

Keep in mind we all are next.
 
There is one good thing about the way Trump's second tour is going. I suspect he is digging a lot of political graves. "Dear Leader" has maneuvered many of his ass-kissing GOP politicians to a position "between a rock and a hard place".
 
altmin said:
gizmodo.com

Universities Can Do Research as Long as It's 'In Sync' With Trump Administration, Education Secretary Says

Science done at U.S. institutions ought to line up with "what the administration is trying to accomplish," Linda McMahon said in an interview Wednesday.
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What is Trump trying to accomplish.

This is maybe the scariest thing any cabinet member has said. Trump is apparently going down the Turkmenistan path where he's trying to warp reality to his derangement.
 
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