theel4life
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This man is me. I have also lost close friends and family members I thought I knew well to the orange turd.
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I agree with your first paragraph.If you're been a victim of the system (whether it's because you're poor, or a minority, or young with few prospects, or whatever) at some point your frustration just grows so large that you become willing to blow it all up and start over again. Whether the new system is likely to work better for your is immaterial, you'll take your chances rather than languish in the old system anymore.
Folks across the spectrum see Trump as the fuse.
Don't forget naivete. It's amazing how many people have no grasp on how bad things could get. Just because everything's been fine your whole life, regardless of which party's held the White House, doesn't mean it'll always be that way. You have to work to maintain what you have. There's always been efforts to weaken American democracy, from outside and in. There just hasn't been wholesale gleeful cooperation with one of the 2 major political parties like this.Every Trump supporter I know is supporting him for one of the following reason: Greed, Fear, Sexism or Racism.
You think that even of the small but growing number of black folks, hispanics, and muslims that are starting to give him their vote?I agree with your first paragraph.
I disagree with your last sentence as it's not "folks across the spectrum". It's folks on the right who are ok with all the terrible things that Trump says and does.
I'm not willing to say for sure that significant numbers of Blacks or Muslims are moving to Trump. I do think it is happening with Hispanics.You think that even of the small but growing number of black folks, hispanics, and muslims that are starting to give him their vote?
I'll put more credence in that when the numbers come out. You hear more talk about that but the the sources on anything are less reliable now. Talking about it also isn't doing it. If his recent speech and actions haven't dissuaded them, then to hell with them. Doesn't bother me if the new divides in America ends up being those who look to the future and those who pine for a past that never existed.You think that even of the small but growing number of black folks, hispanics, and muslims that are starting to give him their vote?
Men that are comfortable with sexism, yes. Hispanics and Muslims coming from religions that oppress women.You think that even of the small but growing number of black folks, hispanics, and muslims that are starting to give him their vote?
Mishmash is the best way to put it. Especially when Liberation Theology has had such power in left wing movements south of the border. Can’t look at any of these groups as monolithic, that’s for sure.We've always had significant conservative groups of Hispanics in the USA...most of the exiles have tended to lean that way given that they were fleeing left-of-center revolutions or revolutionary governments.
The Central Americans and Mexicans who have more recently come seeking employment and security from rightist governments are a huge mishmash ideologically. Certainly very many of them are socially conservative due to being deeply religious (both Catholic as well as missionary evangelical).
It's also probably worth considering what it means to be a "victim of the system." The way Trump and his ilk use that phrase is not how I would use that phrase.If you're been a victim of the system (whether it's because you're poor, or a minority, or young with few prospects, or whatever) at some point your frustration just grows so large that you become willing to blow it all up and start over again. Whether the new system is likely to work better for your is immaterial, you'll take your chances rather than languish in the old system anymore.
Folks across the spectrum see Trump as the fuse.
Some people are fearful by nature, many more are just gullible idiots.They just all seem to be scared. wtf are they scared of?