What did Trump tap into?

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A lot of people are also just bored. Their lives are ordinary. Safe. Boring. They wake up, go to work, come home, go to bed, rinse, repeat.

All this salacious conspiracy bullshit and demonization of outgroups gets their juices flowing. It excites them and it's addictive, at a neurochemical level. I don't know what makes someone more susceptible to actually believing stuff like that, however. Just because I enjoy a good ghost story doesn't mean I believe in ghosts (I don't).
 
336Heel said:
Every Trump supporter I know is supporting him for one of the following reason: Greed, Fear, Sexism or Racism. There's literally no other reason some
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While poasts like this might gain you favor with the majority of the one party-types around here, the holier-than-thou attitude behind it is a large part of why the left continues to bleed support from average, everyday working people across the country. Between that, the illiberal hypocrisy on constant display, the devotion to and worship of the state, and the willingness to abandon all norms in pursuit of a political outsider, the left has given Trump plenty to tap into over the past several years that has nothing to do with the tired tropes you list above. Thankfully, it appears as if some Black and Hispanic voters are beginning to notice.
 
UNCRx85 said:
A lot of people are also just bored. Their lives are ordinary. Safe. Boring. They wake up, go to work, come home, go to bed, rinse, repeat.

All this salacious conspiracy bullshit and demonization of outgroups gets their juices flowing. It excites them and it's addictive, at a neurochemical level. I don't know what makes someone more susceptible to actually believing stuff like that, however. Just because I enjoy a good ghost story doesn't mean I believe in ghosts (I don't).
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I never thought about that-but it makes sense Now these "bored " folks are also likely to love the racist anti trans etc etc stuff because they believed all that since they were 12
 
For those that have so much, comparatively speaking to the rest of the world, and complain they're being or have been cheated, it doesn't hold much substance with me. Every one of the orange turds who feel this way are greedy fucks just like the orange turd they so worship and idolize.
 
WBroylesH said:
If you're been a victim of the system (whether it's because you're poor, or a minority, or young with few prospects, or whatever) at some point your frustration just grows so large that you become willing to blow it all up and start over again. Whether the new system is likely to work better for your is immaterial, you'll take your chances rather than languish in the old system anymore.

Folks across the spectrum see Trump as the fuse.
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Yeah, that's not it. Maybe there are people that see themselves as victims, but they are only victims in their mind. What they are really scared of is losing their privilege in this country of being a straight, white Christian. Obama won twice and it made them lose their minds. The racism and bigotry just erupted to the surface after that, combined with the LGBTQ community getting treated equally and diversity and inclusion initiatives. They don't want to deal with it because they can't understand it. They just want the whole country to be like it is in the bubble they live in. They want to go back to the 1950s and sooner when they didn't have to deal with brown and black people, gays, trans, non Christians, etc, and had power by just being a straight, white Christian.
 
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Croatoan said:
While poasts like this might gain you favor with the majority of the one party-types around here, the holier-than-thou attitude behind it is a large part of why the left continues to bleed support from average, everyday working people across the country. Between that, the illiberal hypocrisy on constant display, the devotion to and worship of the state, and the willingness to abandon all norms in pursuit of a political outsider, the left has given Trump plenty to tap into over the past several years that has nothing to do with the tired tropes you list above. Thankfully, it appears as if some Black and Hispanic voters are beginning to notice.
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Why don't you explain why you're voting for Trump?
 
Croatoan said:
While poasts like this might gain you favor with the majority of the one party-types around here, the holier-than-thou attitude behind it is a large part of why the left continues to bleed support from average, everyday working people across the country. Between that, the illiberal hypocrisy on constant display, the devotion to and worship of the state, and the willingness to abandon all norms in pursuit of a political outsider, the left has given Trump plenty to tap into over the past several years that has nothing to do with the tired tropes you list above. Thankfully, it appears as if some Black and Hispanic voters are beginning to notice.
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That's lot of words to say Trump supporters are delicate flowers.
 
Croatoan said:
While poasts like this might gain you favor with the majority of the one party-types around here, the holier-than-thou attitude behind it is a large part of why the left continues to bleed support from average, everyday working people across the country. Between that, the illiberal hypocrisy on constant display, the devotion to and worship of the state, and the willingness to abandon all norms in pursuit of a political outsider, the left has given Trump plenty to tap into over the past several years that has nothing to do with the tired tropes you list above. Thankfully, it appears as if some Black and Hispanic voters are beginning to notice.
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Wow, hypocrisy from liberals? That's rich. And it's not holier than though attitude to just want people to not be racist, bigoted and sexist. But you keep living in that fake bubble you have made for yourself so you can stay safe from the black and brown people and the queers.
 
WBroylesH said:
If you're been a victim of the system (whether it's because you're poor, or a minority, or young with few prospects, or whatever) at some point your frustration just grows so large that you become willing to blow it all up and start over again. Whether the new system is likely to work better for your is immaterial, you'll take your chances rather than languish in the old system anymore.

Folks across the spectrum see Trump as the fuse.
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I agree with this. I’m not voting for Trump or Harris, I want to see significant change in politics. I believe both sides need a wake up call for their own reasons. I want MAGA gone. I want the far left gone. I want religion, identity politics, wokeness, science-denial, etc all gone.
 
ZenMode said:
I want MAGA gone. I want the far left gone. I want religion, identity politics, wokeness, science-denial, etc all gone.
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You need to decide what you want gone more and vote for Trump or Harris. Not voting for either is not proving a thing to anyone. There's a choice to be made in this country and not voting for either is just you throwing in the towel.
 
Croatoan said:
While poasts like this might gain you favor with the majority of the one party-types around here, the holier-than-thou attitude behind it is a large part of why the left continues to bleed support from average, everyday working people across the country. Between that, the illiberal hypocrisy on constant display, the devotion to and worship of the state, and the willingness to abandon all norms in pursuit of a political outsider, the left has given Trump plenty to tap into over the past several years that has nothing to do with the tired tropes you list above. Thankfully, it appears as if some Black and Hispanic voters are beginning to notice.
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Who knew Trump supporters had such diverse and complex motives. For a second there, I almost thought their blind devotion to Trump was because he just constantly told them what they wanted to hear, no matter how grotesque or insane or illogical it was. Anything they saw/read/heard to the contrary just reinforced the devotion. Similar to how a Mormon mission reinforces dogmatic indoctrination through forcing young men to endure rejection after rejection after rejection in places they've never been before, far away from home and family (no offense to our LDS contingent).

You may be more well-read than most of your ilk, but I believe what my eyes see. And they don't see "illiberal hypocrisy on constant display, the devotion to and worship of the state, and the willingness to abandon all norms in pursuit of a political outsider". They see privileged people rooting for their team to win above all else, no matter the harm it does to the country. Seriously, what were you even talking about here?

Stop acting like there're some noble, well-reasoned excuse for supporting Donald Trump. At this point, if you do, you're either a bad person or a stupid one. Maybe both. If this makes you cling tighter to Trump's ding-a-ling, then so be it. You two deserve each other.
 
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ZenMode said:
I agree with this. I’m not voting for Trump or Harris, I want to see significant change in politics. I believe both sides need a wake up call for their own reasons. I want MAGA gone. I want the far left gone. I want religion, identity politics, wokeness, science-denial, etc all gone.
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If you're not voting for Harris you might as well be voting for Trump. That's not helping at all. You're just being foolish.
 
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