2024 Pre-Election Political Polls | POLL - Trump would have had 7 point lead over Biden

[finesse]

You don’t truly think the violence from pissed off sore losers will only occur if Harris wins, do you? Half the country is pushing a narrative that a Trump win is apocalyptic even though he’s already been president for 4 years previously and we all survived. People will lose their ever loving minds if Trump wins.

Why wouldn't we be? He's obviously lost his mind and is calling for all sorts of violations of the laws of the U.S., humanity and God. If you won't be horrified , you essentially have to have no faith in America and no belief in any of the tenets of democracy. His first term was pretty bad and that was before he completely jumped the shark.

As far as the violence goes, there is only one party (not individuals, one party. Get that in your head.) that routinely is calling for it, encouraging it and hold as heroes the people who used it on January 6th. Is this who and what you support? Yes I expect there would be protests and people in the street if Harris loses. And I expect that Trump will already have storm troopers on tap. I don't expect Harris to try to subvert the vote and/or organize an insurrection like a younger, saner Trump did a few years ago.

 

[BlueSmoke]

I see polling is sliding back to Trump somewhat. Not surprised that the magic of Harris being NEW is wearing off.

Trump's the carnival barking fraud that our founding fathers were afraid of. No matter what, too many folks are going to believe in his magical cures.

 

[nycfan]

LETS RETURN THIS THREAD TO ITS ORIGINAL PROGRAMMING — POLITICAL POLLS FOR THE ELECTION

Thanks!

 

[nycfan]

 

[nycfan]

 

[nycfan]

Red wave poll:

 

[Bigs23]

Are they supporting trump or an outsider (any outsider) going against a system that’s failing them? It shouldn’t be close, but it is. And the explanation that “people are dumb” is lazy and obtuse.

Mostly trump from what I see.

 

[aGDevil2k]

Red wave poll:

Those WSJ numbers are weird

 

[altmin]

David Plouffe was on Pod Save America and I know he is not a neutral voice, but in a nutshell he says this is a margin of error race; believes the public polling is not worth listening to; says he would rather be "us than them;" and "our internal polling points to hidden support among anti-Trump Republicans. "

 

[RockyMtnHoo]

For me, Harris 270-268 is a terrible scenario…arguably worst case.

If Trump fairly gets 270+ it would be awful, but the will of the people will have spoken. If Harris gets 270 exactly it will go to the Courts, and I have no faith this SCOTUS will do the right thing…especially if one state can swing the results.

I say worst case because Harris will have fairly won, but it literally could be stolen. That’s when you could/would potentially see violence from the Left.

 

[aGDevil2k]

David Plouffe was on Pod Save America and I know he is not a neutral voice, but in a nutshell he says this is a margin of error race; believes the public polling is not worth listening to; says he would rather be "us than them;" and "our internal polling points to hidden support among anti-Trump Republicans. "

He's not neutral at all

But he sure knows what he's doing and he tends to not bs things

 

[StrangePackage]

There's going to be violence either way, no matter who wins.

Agreed.

If Trump loses, his supporters will engage in violence to punish their perceived enemies for thwarting the will of the people.

If Trump wins, his supporters will engage in violence to punish their perceived enemies for attempting to thwart the will of the people.

 

[hedge]

For me, Harris 270-268 is a terrible scenario…arguably worst case.

Oh there's definitely a worse case than that...

 

[hedge]

General upvote for den mother nycfan peeking her head in the door and calling for a return to thread topic, then flooding the zone with new polls as an example (and even slipping in a tranquilizing, balm-of-hurt-minds California +27 poll in the mix)...

 

[finesse]

I think she's biased against those of us who are constitutionally unable to pay attention.

 

[Bigs23]

For me, Harris 270-268 is a terrible scenario…arguably worst case.

If Trump fairly gets 270+ it would be awful, but the will of the people will have spoken. If Harris gets 270 exactly it will go to the Courts, and I have no faith this SCOTUS will do the right thing…especially if one state can swing the results.

I say worst case because Harris will have fairly won, but it literally could be stolen. That’s when you could/would potentially see violence from the Left.

Harris winning is better than trump winning under any circumstance.

The Pubs stealing it after losing is still more unlikely than likely.

 

[RockyMtnHoo]

Harris winning is better than trump winning under any circumstance.

The Pubs stealing it after losing is still more unlikely than likely.

It becomes less likely the larger the EC margin. We’re already at a point where the Dem nominee needs to win the popular vote by at least 4%. Throw in a SCOTUS that is 6-3 with half of those 6 appointed by Trump, and 2 that weren’t being arguably the worst/most biased Justices ever, and I won’t assume a win is safe if a single state can swing things.

 

[CFordUNC]

We’ll happily trade Arizona and Nevada for North Carolina!

 

[Paine]

It becomes less likely the larger the EC margin. We’re already at a point where the Dem nominee needs to win the popular vote by at least 4%. Throw in a SCOTUS that is 6-3 with half of those 6 appointed by Trump, and 2 that weren’t being arguably the worst/most biased Justices ever, and I won’t assume a win is safe if a single state can swing things.

Dem might not have to win the PV by as much going forward to win the EC anymore if racial depolarization continues its trend.

 

[nycfan]

I'm starting to get the sinking feeling that the 2024 electoral map is going to look at lot like the 2016 electoral outcome ...