2024 Pre-Election Political Polls | POLL - Trump would have had 7 point lead over Biden

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TullyHeel said:
Looks like the Pubs' goal of destroying public education has worked on half of the country.
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Yeah, but that's kinda my point. I mean I don't have a conceptual problem with half of Trump voters believe the US allows legal infanticide. I mean half of all voters are idiots (not to put too fine a point on it).

But 9 out of 10 is a different thing entirely. I mean how the hell do you find ANYTHING that 9 out of 10 people agree on, never mind this batshit insanity about bringing in illegals to vote? I mean you literally won't get 9 out of 10 people to agree on an insipidly bland statement like "Music is good". How is it possible that 9 out of 10 Trump voters believe this insanity?
 
lightbluenc said:
The teamsters polling was overwhelming for Biden before he dropped out, so maybe its just a woman thing.
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It wasn't overwhelming. I think it was 44-38 for Biden. I think it's as likely to be a race thing as a woman thing (and is probably both), but there's also the additional factor that Kamala doesn't have the same long track record as Biden in this area, and doesn't have the same blue-collar Scranton roots.

I'm not sure Teamsters' endorsements mean much any more. I think the members will probably vote for whom they like, regardless of what the union says. It's like newspaper endorsements -- they used to matter, back when information was much more limited and so people looked to intermediaries like newspapers or unions to guide them. These days? If you think that states are killing babies after birth, who the fuck cares about what your union boss says? You need to vote for Trump! And if you know that's not happening, then you know you need to vote for Trump's opponent since Trump's brain is more mushy than ever.

On the margins, this might make a tiny difference but I doubt it. There are only about 1 million teamsters worldwide. For sake of discussion, let's assume they are all here. That would put maybe 20K teamsters in PA, on the back of my envelope. Maybe 30K. So how many of those votes would be changed by a union endorsement? 5K? That seems pretty high to me. 1K? I mean, I don't know, and obviously 5K isn't nothing. But it's also not likely to be terribly important.
 
CallMeTyler said:
And eschews critical thinking because it raises questions when all you need is "faith".
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Which is interesting since they also believe every word of the Bible is inspired and literally true. Shall we check in with the brother of Jesus?

James 2:14-26​

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14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?

15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,

16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?

17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?

23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.

24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?

26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
 
aGDevil2k said:



Oh no! lol - he says the cape fear river cleanup is the big issue
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No offense, but who is this asshole and why are we giving him clicks/views/attention?

Maybe I’m in the minority, but I’m of the opinion this thread (and board) should be discerning about the content brought over here. I’m not just directing this at that particular post, but stuff like this dilutes the actual information shared and can make eyes start to gloss over.
 
I don't know. i would prefer as few limits as possible. Doxing and any kind of harassment doesn't fly but, other than that, I don't care if we have any.

Yes, this is terribly frivolous but it created a reaction and, I hope, a reasonable discussion. I like digression. They make me think in different ways for a moment or two. While this might be a character defect on my part, I have made some big decisions triggered by unexpected events that weren't related to the event but to something I learned about myself.

Yeah, I know, it's just a message board.
 
superrific said:
It wasn't overwhelming. I think it was 44-38 for Biden. I think it's as likely to be a race thing as a woman thing (and is probably both), but there's also the additional factor that Kamala doesn't have the same long track record as Biden in this area, and doesn't have the same blue-collar Scranton roots.

I'm not sure Teamsters' endorsements mean much any more. I think the members will probably vote for whom they like, regardless of what the union says. It's like newspaper endorsements -- they used to matter, back when information was much more limited and so people looked to intermediaries like newspapers or unions to guide them. These days? If you think that states are killing babies after birth, who the fuck cares about what your union boss says? You need to vote for Trump! And if you know that's not happening, then you know you need to vote for Trump's opponent since Trump's brain is more mushy than ever.

On the margins, this might make a tiny difference but I doubt it. There are only about 1 million teamsters worldwide. For sake of discussion, let's assume they are all here. That would put maybe 20K teamsters in PA, on the back of my envelope. Maybe 30K. So how many of those votes would be changed by a union endorsement? 5K? That seems pretty high to me. 1K? I mean, I don't know, and obviously 5K isn't nothing. But it's also not likely to be terribly important.
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My bad I thought it was 54-38 not 44-38.
 
duluoz said:
No offense, but who is this asshole and why are we giving him clicks/views/attention?

Maybe I’m in the minority, but I’m of the opinion this thread (and board) should be discerning about the content brought over here. I’m not just directing this at that particular post, but stuff like this dilutes the actual information shared and can make eyes start to gloss over.
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Because it was hilarious. It's pretty clear it isn't something to hang your hat on.
 
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