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2024 Pre-Election Political Polls | POLL - Trump would have had 7 point lead over Biden

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nycfan said:
Maybe weighting toward rural voters adjusts for the electoral college advantage of rural states.
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That would be terrible polling methodology.

If you want to account for the EC, you do state-level polling in swing states and then forecast the EC. We know that the EC will be closer than the PV, you don't want to tilt any PV predictions around potential EC outcomes.
 
Calheel said:
Again there are no Bouzy polls. He is just a BS crypto bro scamming liberals.
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Didn't say there were polls.

But Mitchell and others scam for conservatives. They are intentionally building a narrative to empower MAGAs to try to overturn and challenge legit results.

That's way more dangerous than trying to get people to abandon Twitter and donate to another platform
 
aGDevil2k said:
Won't argue about some of the others but he was, in final count, closer than some of the other models that often get cited for reference. He missed on the other side.

But he definitely seems to grift a bit. He gets on his own personal things and gets way too much into social media trolling for my taste. It will be interesting to see what his move is if he really craps out in this election.. Now if he does well....
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In politics, control is absolutely the key issue. It’s like going over on the final showdown on Price is Right.

538 pegged it at 227 Republicans. Bouzy’s WAG was like 212 Republicans. Bouzy’s guess may have been 1 or 2 closer, but he totally missed on the key issue: control.

In any event, any scammer can throw out guesses that go against the mainstream. That doesn’t give them credibility just because the mainstream was a little off. If it did, then Trafalgar would be the most respected pollster after 2016.

Anyway, this isn’t just about 2022. It is the fact that Bouzy is a scam artist and we would be better to ignore his BS until Nov 6th.
 
aGDevil2k said:
Didn't say there were polls.

But Mitchell and others scam for conservatives. They are intentionally building a narrative to empower MAGAs to try to overturn and challenge legit results.

That's way more dangerous than trying to get people to abandon Twitter and donate to another platform
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Scam artists are scam artists. We are not 4chan or Reddit. We can do better.
 
Calheel said:
Well, this board is naturally skeptical of conservative BS. It is the liberal BS that hits more of a blind spot.
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With a 0-to-100 scale, with 50 being a true moderate, Bernie Sanders is a 25-30. Joe Biden is a 55 or so. Kamala? Likely the same. Bill Clinton? Hillary Clinton? 55-60.

Mitt Romney? 65-70. Ted Cruz? 85. Little Marco? 80-85. Today’s GOP? 85-95. Donald Trump? 95. Hitler? 120.

Posts extolling Bernie or “The Squad” get slammed on this site; they were slammed on ZZL-P.
 
Calheel said:
1. No, not even close. He thought Dems would win the House.
2. He has no formal education.
3. He has been a serial scammer his whole adult life.
4. He is a grifting, self-promoter
5. He knows absolutely nothing about polls or elections.
6. Spend five minutes on Google and you can find everything you need to know about this fraudster.
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1. He was closer than any other projection, so disagree here.
2. Okay
3. What would make Chris a serial scammer?
4. He wrote an algorithm that tracks bot activity on Twitter, then was subsequently banned from using the Twitter API for his disclosure of said bot activity across the platform. Is that why you consider him a scammer?

I've spent more than 5 minutes looking into his profile and past history/exploits. I've yet to uncover a single detail that helps to underline your claims of him being a scammer/grifter. If it was that obvious, it would be.
 
CallMeTyler said:
1. He was closer than any other projection, so disagree here.
2. Okay
3. What would make Chris a serial scammer?
4. He wrote an algorithm that tracks bot activity on Twitter, then was subsequently banned from using the Twitter API for his disclosure of said bot activity across the platform. Is that why you consider him a scammer?

I've spent more than 5 minutes looking into his profile and past history/exploits. I've yet to uncover a single detail that helps to underline your claims of him being a scammer/grifter. If it was that obvious, it would be.
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"3. He has been a serial scammer his whole adult life.
4. He is a grifting, self-promoter"

Isn't this what many say about Trump?
 
Zoo_View said:
With a 0-to-100 scale, with 50 being a true moderate, Bernie Sanders is a 25-30. Joe Biden is a 55 or so. Kamala? Likely the same. Bill Clinton? Hillary Clinton? 55-60.

Mitt Romney? 65-70. Ted Cruz? 85. Little Marco? 80-85. Today’s GOP? 85-95. Donald Trump? 95. Hitler? 120.

Posts extolling Bernie or “The Squad” get slammed on this site; they were slammed on ZZL-P.
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Think you’re way too high of a rating on Bernie. Think he’s about a 15. I’d probably put Biden at a 48. Think you have Mitt, Cruz and Rubio right.

Trump is a weird one. So many of his positions are diametrically opposed to what I’d consider the Reagan classic conservative positions on trade, foreign policy and immigration. Trump is just a political opportunist trying to take positions with the anti-system portion of the electorate.

Where would you put Obama?
 
Paine said:
The fact that people think a social democrat should be that far left on any scale shows how skewed the political conversation in this country has become.
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I have strong disagreements with Bernie on foreign policy (I favor a more realistic peace through strength approach) but nothing about Bernie's domestic economic policy is far left. Sure it's way to the left of where the "Let's downsize the government till we can drown it in a bathtub" loons think it should be. But I'm not budging my Overton to satisfy those loons.

Bernie simply believes that there are a range of government programs and services that would benefit Americans of all stripes and it can all be paid for my asking obscenely wealthy Americans to pay their fair share. Nothing fringe about that view. We can have a conversation about where we as a nation want to precisely land on that spectrum, but to brand his preferred approach as toxically radical is disingenuous.
 
Ddseddse said:
I have strong disagreements with Bernie on foreign policy (I favor a more realistic peace through strength approach) but nothing about Bernie's domestic economic policy is far left. Sure it's way to the left of where the "Let's downsize the government till we can drown it in a bathtub" loons think it should be. But I'm not budging my Overton to satisfy those loons.

Bernie simply believes that there are a range of government programs and services that would benefit Americans of all stripes and it can all be paid for my asking obscenely wealthy Americans to pay their fair share. Nothing fringe about that view. We can have a conversation about where we as a nation want to precisely land on that spectrum, but to brand his preferred approach as toxically radical is disingenuous.
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Personally, I don't think a flat tax is a terrible idea.
 
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