2024 Pre-Election Political Polls | POLL - Trump would have had 7 point lead over Biden

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Croatoan said:
Ah, polling…how all “democratic” Preisdential nominations are traditionally decided. Sorry, forgot about that. The Party that fooled some into electing a vegetable, staged a gentle coup of said vegetable, and then installed a nominee no one liked or voted for must have nothing but respect for its voters; I see that now.
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Congrats to you and the Republican party for supporting your vegetable all the way through the nomination process.
 
05C40 said:
So you're saying that early voting this year is like 4:00 pm at the K&W Cafeteria?
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4pm at the K&W could go either way.
It’s the lunch leftovers in the chafing dishes (cooked to mush and over done)….
Or, it’s the fresh stuff just put out for the 5pm dinner rush… the best the food is ever going to get on a buffet.
It’s a crap shoot as to what you’re gonna get.
 
I'm sure this has been discussed, but is Pennsylvania different because they do not have in person early voting? It looks like they only have in person voting on Election Day, OR you can vote by mail. This actually makes sense as to why it would be playing out much like 2020 when the other states are not.
 
Croatoan said:
Who’s complaining? I mean, I think it’s kinda nice that I have something in common with the rulers of the Democratic Party; none of us respect the majority of their voters. That said, those voters (or non-voters, I guess) don’t seem to have much respect for themselves either, if your poast is to be believed. Strange flex.
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I am unaffiliated. I give zero fucks how Democrats choose their nominee, that’s for Democrats to decide. Are you a Democrat? If not why are you so obsessed with their nominating process? All I know is the Democrats managed to put forward a nominee far better than the Republican process produced and that seems to piss you off. Why do you care?
 
mpaer said:
I don't understand why Robinson-not Falwell
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Robinson was a terrible candidate that I thought Stein could easily defeat. Stein was a given on the Dem side. I like Stein’s positions the best and Folwell’s as the Rep candidate would have given Stein a run for his money with the state being nearly 50/50. I also wanted to make sure the gerrymandered legislature didn’t have the opportunity for their nonsense to be rubberstamped by a Rep governor.
 
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duluoz said:
These Marist numbers would indicate a significant number of independent/unaffiliated early voters are breaking for Harris, which makes sense.

But has anyone seen any reasonable or credible projections on that breakout?
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Would also indicate that the gender gap is really hitting in force. Women are breaking big for Harris (same as men for mango) but women are outvoting men big time. And that's one thing that you wouldnt expect to change in early vs election day.
 
Croatoan said:
Ah, polling…how all “democratic” Preisdential nominations are traditionally decided. Sorry, forgot about that. The Party that fooled some into electing a vegetable, staged a gentle coup of said vegetable, and then installed a nominee no one liked or voted for must have nothing but respect for its voters; I see that now.
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If this were a normal time with normal candidates, I’d say maybe you had a point. But it’s not. And you don’t.

The thing with bad-faith arguments is that it’s obvious when the argument is being made in bad faith. Try not to be so obvious from now on. Maybe then some would mistake you for a serious adult person.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
Let me speak to just one part of this. I definitely think that the indictments have only further polarized Trump in both directions - as in, they’ve made people who hate him even more repulsed by him, while at the same time strengthening the loyalty to him from his supporters.

As someone who has a lot of Trump supporters in my circle, this makes sense to me. The main appeal of Trump is that he’s a Washington outsider who the folks in the “swamp” cannot stand, and they’ll do anything to make him go away. So Trump being prosecuted for these crimes (crimes he would never be prosecuted for unless he was running for reelection) is only going to make his supporters double down and support him more. The whole thing reinforces their perception that he’s a political outsider and that the political machine has no bottom when it comes to trying to get rid of him.

Basically, Trump’s whole legal mess encourages both his supporters and his haters to strengthen their conviction in how they feel about him.
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Do you have some basis you'd like to share for the assertion that he has only been prosecuted for these crimes because of his candidacy? I'm asking honestly if you know of other examples of such crimes that were not prosecuted. I look at what he was prosecuted for and think that pretty much anyone who does those things and it becomes well known ia gonna get prosecuted.

Now, one could make the argument that his notoriety led to the prosecution because it highlighted the criminal activity. That I can buy. But wouldn't that be more Trump’s own fault than anyone? In essence, if you're gonna be a criminal, don't flaunt it?
 
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