2024 Presidential Election | ELECTION DAY 2024

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I don't know which thread this should be asked in but I was wondering why so many rich people are supporting a person who is promising across the board tariffs and the exporting of tens of millions of workers. Are they so short sighted that they think that the tax cuts will make up for the damage that that could do to the economy? Are they betting that Trump will not do either of those things? Is it that they feel obligated to back the guy who has shown to use the power of the office for vengeance?

I get the Bezos situation because Trump backed him in a corner. I sort of get Musk because Trump could reward his loyalty via government contracts. But your average billionaire shouldn't be supporting Trump in my opinion.
1. I'm not sure how many of the rich people who aren't diehards are supporting him. Jamie Dimon, for instance, reportedly favors Kamala. Probably for that reason.
2. Elon probably doesn't give a fuck because of his wealth and also he stands to gain from government contracts with SpaceX
3. They probably think they can convince Trump not to do it. Because everyone thinks they can handle Trump.
 
What ever happened to that bombshell revelation that would “end Trump’s campaign”?
It turns out that the stuff that Trump actually says in his own speeches and what others say at his events was way more bizarre and damaging than the "smoking gun" the Democrats had thought would sink the Trump Campaign.
 
Because his brain is such mush that every day he wakes up and they have to tell him, again, Biden isnt running
It's that and also that he desperately wanted to run against Biden because he (and his campaign staff) thought they would just coast to an easy win in the election. And now they're fighting for their lives (or in Trump's case, to possibly avoid jail time) against a much tougher opponent, despite the claims of many Trumpers, including some on this here board, that Kamala isn't a strong candidate and should be easy to beat.
 
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There are 756 billionaires in the US alone. I think it is appropriate to say average billionaire.

I didn’t say that any of them are the average American. Within every subset there is going to be some that are around the average of that subset - whatever metric you are using.

Not sure why that language seemed odd to anyone.
 
1. I'm not sure how many of the rich people who aren't diehards are supporting him. Jamie Dimon, for instance, reportedly favors Kamala. Probably for that reason.
2. Elon probably doesn't give a fuck because of his wealth and also he stands to gain from government contracts with SpaceX
3. They probably think they can convince Trump not to do it. Because everyone thinks they can handle Trump.
That reminds me of a conversation I had with my bother in law while in Dallas this weekend for a family gathering. He is an extremely smart guy, Vanderbilt grad, executive level attorney.

He doesn’t like Trump but said he can’t vote for Harris because of some of her crazy ideas like instituting price controls. I actually agree with that but Harris isn’t going to get those things passed. I don’t even believe she really would try. My point is that he can’t argue that Trump won’t really deport 10 million people but assume Harris would get price controls passed. And if both are real possibilities then I would take the latter as the least bad policy.

I would have loved to hear what my sister (his wife) would have said about the conversation but she passed a year ago.
 
That reminds me of a conversation I had with my bother in law while in Dallas this weekend for a family gathering. He is an extremely smart guy, Vanderbilt grad, executive level attorney.

He doesn’t like Trump but said he can’t vote for Harris because of some of her crazy ideas like instituting price controls. I actually agree with that but Harris isn’t going to get those things passed. I don’t even believe she really would try. My point is that he can’t argue that Trump won’t really deport 10 million people but assume Harris would get price controls passed. And if both are real possibilities then I would take the latter as the least bad policy.

I would have loved to hear what my sister (his wife) would have said about the conversation but she passed a year ago.
"He doesn’t like Trump ..."

Meryl Streep Doubt GIF

How's he feeling about a tariff-based economy?
 
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I am loathe to give Trump credit for much of anything, but he absolutely nailed it with the ‘Birdbrain’ moniker.
Nikki has definitely sold her soul and has thus disqualified herself from the universe of credible candidates even if MAGA recedes, but I don't see this as a sign of her lack of intelligence. If anything, Trump is the idiot for not using her in the final stretch. Trump has clearly decided he wants to close on open and overt racism, misogyny, vulgarity and bitterness, and not on any of the things Haley could say to help him with moderates. I think that's a huge mistake on his part, but I guess we'll see.
 
Nikki has definitely sold her soul and has thus disqualified herself from the universe of credible candidates even if MAGA recedes, but I don't see this as a sign of her lack of intelligence. If anything, Trump is the idiot for not using her in the final stretch. Trump has clearly decided he wants to close on open and overt racism, misogyny, vulgarity and bitterness, and not on any of the things Haley could say to help him with moderates. I think that's a huge mistake on his part, but I guess we'll see.
Oh yeah, great points. Agree with you. She’s definitely not unintelligent by any means. She’s just a craven coward.
 
I am loathe to give Trump credit for much of anything, but he absolutely nailed it with the ‘Birdbrain’ moniker.
She’s basically been TedCruzed. Also, she’ll appear once or twice in these final days for an attempt to shave 0.2 margins in PA, IMO.
 
She didn't have a choice if she wants to run in '28. She had to endorse him or MAGA would have ruined her. Doesn't make it right.
 
Tonight's speech on the Ellipse could not come at a better time. The media has been talking nonstop about Trump, and not in a positive way. We're one week out now, so even the people who hate politics are finally tuning in. The backdrop should be great. The symbolism should be great. And Kamala does really well with these types of speeches, probably because she's made hundreds of actual closing arguments in her career. I'm excited to hear it, and I have a strong feeling it will be a big positive for her as we enter crunch time.
 
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